Browse Forums Building Standards; Getting It Right! Re: Building Contract Specifications 3Jul 05, 2021 10:37 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Contract Specifications 4Jul 05, 2021 11:24 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Building Contract Specifications 5Jul 05, 2021 11:36 am This forum is a great resource and it beggars belief to industry experts that battlers and punters don't use it properly.... Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Contract Specifications 6Jul 05, 2021 11:56 am StructuralBIMGuy This forum is a great resource and it beggars belief to industry experts that battlers and punters don't use it properly.... Thank you to both of you. It is a good forum. If they say it will cost us, I'll just leave it as axon cladding. If there were a list of professionals that we could contact and have them look over the plans and see it matches the details that would have been great. We had a lawyer look at the contract but we had no one to cross check the plans to the details. Re: Building Contract Specifications 7Jul 05, 2021 11:56 am SaveH2O StructuralBIMGuy It always pays to review all the costing and documentation before you sign a PPA and hand over a deposit, We are seeing more and more problems as a result of Insta and FB post photos where Battlers and Punters think they are getting exactly what's presented? Yep...and this is yet another to add to the forum's very long list of contract issues that could/would have been avoided had there been a pre contract signing consultation with an appropriately qualified industry professional. Maybe you can organise a company that does that? Re: Building Contract Specifications 8Jul 05, 2021 12:03 pm Cupcake2021 SaveH2O StructuralBIMGuy It always pays to review all the costing and documentation before you sign a PPA and hand over a deposit, We are seeing more and more problems as a result of Insta and FB post photos where Battlers and Punters think they are getting exactly what's presented? Yep...and this is yet another to add to the forum's very long list of contract issues that could/would have been avoided had there been a pre contract signing consultation with an appropriately qualified industry professional. Maybe you can organise a company that does that? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Just so I know. Is the Newport weatherboard supposed to go just on the front because it states, 'includes returns to the dwelling'. What does that mean? Re: Building Contract Specifications 9Jul 05, 2021 12:52 pm Cupcake2021 We had a lawyer look at the contract but we had no one to cross check the plans to the details. Lawyers are a waste of time, they don't know what to look out for. Double charges, poor accounting that mysteriously are invariably in the builder's favour, "Performance Solutions" that don't meet Australian Standards, windows/slabs/steps at incorrect heights, incorrect solar HWS, incorrect hydraulic assessments; it has been a long list over the years. It's always best to add where you are located to your post avatar. Many of the better building consultants who do stage inspections also do pre contract consultations and the forum's building professionals like building_expert are a good place to start looking. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Building Contract Specifications 10Jul 05, 2021 12:58 pm SaveH2O Cupcake2021 We had a lawyer look at the contract but we had no one to cross check the plans to the details. Lawyers are a waste of time, they don't know what to look out for. Double charges, poor accounting that mysteriously are invariably in the builder's favour, "Performance Solutions" that don't meet Australian Standards, windows/slabs/steps at incorrect heights, incorrect solar HWS, incorrect hydraulic assessments; it has been a long list over the years. It's always best to add where you are located to your post avatar. Many of the better building consultants who do stage inspections also do pre contract consultations and the forum's building professionals like building_expert are a good place to start looking. I wish I had known this before. We have inspectors for every stage, except contract consultations. We needed a builder to go over it with us, especially because we couldn't meet face-to-face with the Simonds' consultant during lockdown last year. Re: Building Contract Specifications 11Jul 05, 2021 7:57 pm Just curious have they built this façade? or has an artist visualised the coloured rendering of the façade and now that they have sold it to you they are sorting it out the details and construction issues? The working Drawings should be more detailed with Cross sections through a 3D (BIM) Model etc ask to see them and have it explained to you. The returns are always a contentious issue as to where to place material joints... as you don't want them visible in front clear view IMO external corners are better than internal corners Cheers Chris Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Contract Specifications 12Jul 05, 2021 8:30 pm StructuralBIMGuy Just curious have they built this façade? or has an artist visualised the coloured rendering of the façade and now that they have sold it to you they are sorting it out the details and construction issues? The working Drawings should be more detailed with Cross sections through a 3D (BIM) Model etc ask to see them and have it explained to you. The returns are always a contentious issue as to where to place material joints... as you don't want them visible in front clear view IMO external corners are better than internal corners Cheers Chris We are the first to have selected this facade in Melbourne. I will ask for the cross sections. I emailed them today about it and sent a message to our site manager to explain this to us. Thank you Chris for explaining it. I'll ask for a cross section or 3D model for this. Re: Building Contract Specifications 14Jul 08, 2021 10:40 am Noname Let us know what they say when you ask them for the BIM.🤣 Hello, I spoke to them and my Simonds customer service representative handled it very professionally. She double checked and yes we were supposed to have Newport Weatherboard. She gave me the option to pick which one I want... of course I went with the weatherboard as that's what we paid for. She spoke to head office and they sent me the documents this morning. It's been officially changed and I'm so happy with how it's been handled. Thank you so much for your help, this wouldn't have happened if I hadn't had discussed it with the both of you. Thank you! Re: Building Contract Specifications 15Jul 08, 2021 10:53 am Cupcake2021 Noname Let us know what they say when you ask them for the BIM.🤣 Hello, I spoke to them and my Simonds customer service representative handled it very professionally. She double checked and yes we were supposed to have Newport Weatherboard. She gave me the option to pick which one I want... of course I went with the weatherboard as that's what we paid for. She spoke to head office and they sent me the documents this morning. It's been officially changed and I'm so happy with how it's been handled. Thank you so much for your help, this wouldn't have happened if I hadn't had discussed it with the both of you. Thank you! yeah I was specifically referring to the BIM and what they would say when you asked for it. BIM is 3D modeling for architecture/engineering/construction professionals. It usually contains various calculations about material performance, costs etc (not the plans/working drawing usually shared with the customer). Unless you are one of these professions, or have a keen interest and understand the BIM material, they are basically useless to the general consumer. Basically not something a volume builder would provides a client on request. I was interested in what response you'd get back when you asked for such information What you discussed with them was related to an external finish and the material choice and your preferences. Which solved your issue, all without needing any BIM. Basically the expected outcome. quite often on this forum some really over the top "advice" (if you can call it that) gets thrown around for something that can be resolved with a basic conversation with the builder. Glad you got your problem sorted. Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. Re: Building Contract Specifications 16Jul 08, 2021 11:47 am Most Project Builders here use 3D Bim models here Show us your facade to present the completed house image as a sales hook They also use it for extracting quantities and pricing something, you'll never get to see from the Builder To say Bim data is not used is nonsense, it's easier for Builders to say we don't use it, rather than advise Battlers and punters on the material quantities and costs. The smart money is to own copyright of your design and use Bim Data when comparing and checking quotes, designs, simulations, etc. LOL, better over the top than have your pants pulled down on the build site I've said it before " They'll treat you like a mushroom and feed you Sales BullsH1T" The only way is to stand up to it is call it out , if they aren't prepared to listen to reason find another Builder it's their loss" Cheers Chris Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Contract Specifications 17Jul 08, 2021 12:40 pm StructuralBIMGuy Most Project Builders here use 3D Bim models here Show us your facade to present the completed house image as a sales hook They also use it for extracting quantities and pricing something, you'll never get to see from the Builder To say Bim data is not used is nonsense, it's easier for Builders to say we don't use it, rather than advise Battlers and punters on the material quantities and costs. The smart money is to own copyright of your design and use Bim Data when comparing and checking quotes, designs, simulations, etc. LOL, better over the top than have your pants pulled down on the build site I've said it before " They'll treat you like a mushroom and feed you Sales BullsH1T" The only way is to stand up to it is call it out , if they aren't prepared to listen to reason find another Builder it's their loss" Cheers Chris you have really poor comprehension, bad at maths, and im wondering if you even read posts before you tap away responses. No one said "Bim data is not used". Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. Re: Building Contract Specifications 18Jul 08, 2021 2:47 pm StructuralBIMGuy Most Project Builders here use 3D Bim models here Show us your facade to present the completed house image as a sales hook They also use it for extracting quantities and pricing something, you'll never get to see from the Builder To say Bim data is not used is nonsense, it's easier for Builders to say we don't use it, rather than advise Battlers and punters on the material quantities and costs. The smart money is to own copyright of your design and use Bim Data when comparing and checking quotes, designs, simulations, etc. LOL, better over the top than have your pants pulled down on the build site I've said it before " They'll treat you like a mushroom and feed you Sales BullsH1T" The only way is to stand up to it is call it out , if they aren't prepared to listen to reason find another Builder it's their loss" Cheers Chris Hi Chris, The thank you message was for you too. I really appreciate the time you took to try and help me. Thank you! Re: Building Contract Specifications 19Jul 08, 2021 2:49 pm Noname StructuralBIMGuy Most Project Builders here use 3D Bim models here Show us your facade to present the completed house image as a sales hook They also use it for extracting quantities and pricing something, you'll never get to see from the Builder To say Bim data is not used is nonsense, it's easier for Builders to say we don't use it, rather than advise Battlers and punters on the material quantities and costs. The smart money is to own copyright of your design and use Bim Data when comparing and checking quotes, designs, simulations, etc. LOL, better over the top than have your pants pulled down on the build site I've said it before " They'll treat you like a mushroom and feed you Sales BullsH1T" The only way is to stand up to it is call it out , if they aren't prepared to listen to reason find another Builder it's their loss" Cheers Chris you have really poor comprehension, bad at maths, and im wondering if you even read posts before you tap away responses. No one said "Bim data is not used". I'm grateful that he put the effort in helping. Re: Building Contract Specifications 20Jul 08, 2021 2:50 pm he lead you down the garden path. You actually helped yourself Dark matter scientist, can breathe underwater, mind reader and can freeze matter just by willing it. Trust me, its in my sig. Thanks for your reply! All valid points and I agree with you on many of them. I am in QLD, any recommendations on a construction lawyer would be helpful 3 2666 You talk about deletions, are they variations or PS and PC adjustments? pleas list them 1 16682 I've decided, after a period of confusion (my building broker told me it's probably not worth it to use a lawyer, but others have said it is a must) that I definitely will… 7 27978 |