Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Perth Buiilder Broker 2Apr 04, 2021 3:50 pm Personally I think you are better off going to a builder, you pay for a building broker that is probably also getting a kick back from the builder so you are doubling up costs. Do you research on 3 or 4 builders then go from there, I would leave it 12 months if you can as the prices should come down by then, the market is to volatile at the moment Re: Perth Buiilder Broker 3Apr 04, 2021 8:17 pm I made an account after lurking for a long time just to say "don't go through one", especially during this boom. I had a tough time with a broker (not PRD so can't comment on them) and wasted the last 6 months. Each brokerage firm has different fees (some upfront plus commission/percentage based, some just commission) and that is coming out of your build. Lesson I've learnt in the past months: I feel it is best practice to engage an architect/drafting service who will give you the copyrights to your design, and during the design process, visit Pinterest and showrooms, major tiling/carpet/bathroom etc, take note of the fittings/brand/style that you like and have factored in your drawings. Then like Doozer1905 say, research on builders, get them to give you detailed quotes where possible (depends on your budget and who you are approaching as builders tend to ignore requests to see standard inclusion/pre-start upgrade price list). Having said all these, there are others who had positive experiences with brokers out there so interview as many as you wish but don't rely fully on them if you decide to go with one. Make sure everything is in writing (not just measly texts and phone calls). Good luck! Re: Perth Buiilder Broker 4Apr 06, 2021 10:34 pm Doozer1905 Personally I think you are better off going to a builder, you pay for a building broker that is probably also getting a kick back from the builder so you are doubling up costs. Do you research on 3 or 4 builders then go from there, I would leave it 12 months if you can as the prices should come down by then, the market is to volatile at the moment Hi Doozer1905, thanks for the feedback. The broker said that they are getting paid directly by the builder (instead of the builder paying their own internal consultant). I am really not sure because it is very difficult to assess the pricing unless builders are pricing the same drawing/design.. Re: Perth Buiilder Broker 5Apr 06, 2021 10:46 pm kaenex I made an account after lurking for a long time just to say "don't go through one", especially during this boom. I had a tough time with a broker (not PRD so can't comment on them) and wasted the last 6 months. Each brokerage firm has different fees (some upfront plus commission/percentage based, some just commission) and that is coming out of your build. Lesson I've learnt in the past months: I feel it is best practice to engage an architect/drafting service who will give you the copyrights to your design, and during the design process, visit Pinterest and showrooms, major tiling/carpet/bathroom etc, take note of the fittings/brand/style that you like and have factored in your drawings. Then like Doozer1905 say, research on builders, get them to give you detailed quotes where possible (depends on your budget and who you are approaching as builders tend to ignore requests to see standard inclusion/pre-start upgrade price list). Having said all these, there are others who had positive experiences with brokers out there so interview as many as you wish but don't rely fully on them if you decide to go with one. Make sure everything is in writing (not just measly texts and phone calls). Good luck! Thanks for the feedback kaenex. PRD mentioned at our first meeting that they do design in house and we own the design if we decide not to build with them (design fee with them is $1000 upfront). But need to confirm again with them at our next discussion. I am looking for way to compare / assess the pricing and it is hard as different builders design it differently. But if we have one design, then assessment will be easier. I guess if we commit with PRD and not building with them, we will waste $1k design with them because direct builder will start their own design for free. Advantage is that we get more competitive pricing from broker. Btw, PRD also mentioned that they use small to mid size builders at tender which is also another point for us to think about, unsure how sustainable it is for small and mid size builders to last through out the structural and maintenance period of the build. Re: Perth Builder Broker 6Apr 07, 2021 10:03 am Irrespective of who does the design, the builder insists on arranging the engineering , because nether the Architect, designer, brokers, Salesman et al are qualified engineers. Unfortunately, the problem is builders realised long ago that they only make an extra $30 on upgrading/selling door handles when they can make tens of thousands on structural and footings upgrades and unlike door handles clients can't removes structural upgrades. OT, I see dozens of fake insta and pin images a week from clients requiring urgent engineering 3d Bim, data/proofs and solutions. Unfortunately there is no way Engineers can assist, we don't use the designers Software, nor do we have the time to remodel and fix up bad geometry/translations. You are stuck with the cobbled antiquated workflow and 2D engineering Drawings that you can't read....goodluck with that.. BTW, there's no appetite to fix the systems from people that make a living by overcharging, it's up the consumers to force change. Get all the info/data upfront and shop around Ist stage quantity costs are online, 2nd stage quantities... contact the suppliers and ask them to sharpen their quoting pencils 3D Bim, 1st Stage Quantities and internet pricing Forewarned is forearmed Cheers Chris Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Perth Builder Broker 7Apr 08, 2021 12:14 am Hey I’ve read quite a few of your posts and you have terrific knowledge and give a great deal back to people you don’t have too ! Thank you! I was reading a post of yours about undercroft parking. I recently bought a block with an upward slope of 2.5 total includes current front retaining wall... anyway, long story short, it’s 830sqm, I’m totally lost, council says I have to build rear garage but I want some help with block levelling etc! Not super happy the detainer I’m ting too, it appears you are in Perth, it is possible I can have a consult with you? Just feel you have a huge grasp on many topics and at this point buying recently on a sloping block I’m wondering what the heck I did and need someone to get me out of being up the creek without a paddle ! Do you have a business I can contact you on, or I can DM my details? Cheers Kate Re: Perth Builder Broker 8Apr 08, 2021 9:42 am Thanks, I try to help and give back where I can on this forum. Unfortunately, PMs and emails don't help others who are also searching for answers. Start a new Topic put up a contour, building overlay and I'll have a quick look.. delete names and addresses... the better the information you put up the better the response BTW, you will be amazed with what you can now do with Undercofts and Basements Cheers Chris Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Perth Builder Broker 9Apr 08, 2021 12:23 pm StructuralBIMGuy Thanks, I try to help and give back where I can on this forum. Unfortunately, PMs and emails don't help others who are also searching for answers. Start a new Topic put up a contour, building overlay and I'll have a quick look.. delete names and addresses... the better the information you put up the better the response BTW, you will be amazed with what you can now do with Undercofts and Basements Cheers Chris Thanks Chris. Will do, but I saw you write that you can do undercrofts for $1200-1500 ish, sqm so I assumed you have a business. My design is complex due to rear lane issues and parking. So I assumed you might have a business I can book appt through ? You just seem like a terrific start point for me! 🙌 I've PM'D you cheers for reply Kate. Broker here - legislation says that every true broker must put the clients best interests before theirs so in theory they must offer you the best options for you on their… 2 45938 Hi Mofflepop, I would recommend finding a building designer to prepare plans, they should design to your specified budget. The benefit is you can tender the project out… 9 20135 |