Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Mimosa Homes Melbourne Builder 2Sep 05, 2020 4:27 pm Whilst I agree with your points on Conditions 10, 11 and 1. I don't agree on your comments with condition 9. The standard HIA contract states that anything done or not done by the Owner or by an agent, contractor or employee of the Owner; the builder is then allowed to extend the contract due to a delay. The private inspector was enforced by YOU, and not not by the builder. Whilst i'm empathetic to items that have not been constructed to code, a private inspection report is not an easy list to read through and something you can complete swiftly. The builder has to read through the report, identify which trades need to be called back, schedule trades, rectify issues, potentially debate defects, fix defects, report the defects back to the owner etc. It is a very length process and takes a lot of time and resources for the builder to go through. Not only that, most of the long inspection reports you may find are from volume built homes. Well derr, they're cheap for a reason, you can't expect a champagne home on a beer budget. Just my $2c, trying to help you see the other side. Re: Mimosa Homes Melbourne Builder 3Sep 07, 2020 11:38 am Koda67 Whilst I agree with your points on Conditions 10, 11 and 1. I don't agree on your comments with condition 9. The standard HIA contract states that anything done or not done by the Owner or by an agent, contractor or employee of the Owner; the builder is then allowed to extend the contract due to a delay. The private inspector was enforced by YOU, and not not by the builder. Whilst i'm empathetic to items that have not been constructed to code, a private inspection report is not an easy list to read through and something you can complete swiftly. The builder has to read through the report, identify which trades need to be called back, schedule trades, rectify issues, potentially debate defects, fix defects, report the defects back to the owner etc. It is a very length process and takes a lot of time and resources for the builder to go through. Not only that, most of the long inspection reports you may find are from volume built homes. Well derr, they're cheap for a reason, you can't expect a champagne home on a beer budget. Just my $2c, trying to help you see the other side. Koda67. The point I'm making is the legislation is offended by these clauses and they are not enforceable. So why have them? Is it a scare tactic so home owns don't seek out an Independent to find fault. In real terms who caused the fault,, the home owner or the builder? The builder.... If so why penalise the homeowner which appears to be the intent of these special conditions. I can clearly see where you are coming from. I will say that this builder is with the HIA. That is the peek body that looks after builders in Victoria. It is their contract that the builder is using. If these additional conditions were fair and reasonable, their own body, the HIA, should place them in every contract. No they are not reasonable and go to the heart of the problem that we face in Victoria. Builders offending the legislation, treating people with little regard for their rights and using bulldozer tactic in contracts. Buyer beware. Price and promises are forgotten just after the fighting starts. By the way, I love your last comment. Champagne home on a beer budget. The builder states in the contract that he/she will build to the Australian Standards and Laws. That is NOT Champagne. That is just the minimums that are acceptable. Re: Mimosa Homes Melbourne Builder 4Sep 07, 2020 9:53 pm Small Minds Koda67 Whilst I agree with your points on Conditions 10, 11 and 1. I don't agree on your comments with condition 9. The standard HIA contract states that anything done or not done by the Owner or by an agent, contractor or employee of the Owner; the builder is then allowed to extend the contract due to a delay. The private inspector was enforced by YOU, and not not by the builder. Whilst i'm empathetic to items that have not been constructed to code, a private inspection report is not an easy list to read through and something you can complete swiftly. The builder has to read through the report, identify which trades need to be called back, schedule trades, rectify issues, potentially debate defects, fix defects, report the defects back to the owner etc. It is a very length process and takes a lot of time and resources for the builder to go through. Not only that, most of the long inspection reports you may find are from volume built homes. Well derr, they're cheap for a reason, you can't expect a champagne home on a beer budget. Just my $2c, trying to help you see the other side. Koda67. The point I'm making is the legislation is offended by these clauses and they are not enforceable. So why have them? Is it a scare tactic so home owns don't seek out an Independent to find fault. In real terms who caused the fault,, the home owner or the builder? The builder.... If so why penalise the homeowner which appears to be the intent of these special conditions. I can clearly see where you are coming from. I will say that this builder is with the HIA. That is the peek body that looks after builders in Victoria. It is their contract that the builder is using. If these additional conditions were fair and reasonable, their own body, the HIA, should place them in every contract. No they are not reasonable and go to the heart of the problem that we face in Victoria. Builders offending the legislation, treating people with little regard for their rights and using bulldozer tactic in contracts. Buyer beware. Price and promises are forgotten just after the fighting starts. By the way, I love your last comment. Champagne home on a beer budget. The builder states in the contract that he/she will build to the Australian Standards and Laws. That is NOT Champagne. That is just the minimums that are acceptable. Yeah I agree, some builders would be doing this to scare clients away for sure. Well... it's not penalising the owner if the builder agree's to read the report, fix it and honour their mistakes. But it's just another kick to the builder if this adds another week to the build, potentially longer to fix the defects, and the possibility of LD'S due to this. Agree'd it is the builders fault, but an inspector isn't going to go too site and not find anything, otherwise he wouldn't be doing his job. The HIA haven't updated their contracts in years, they're well out dated that is for sure. Let me put it this way then, some people expect a Toorak finished home on a 1980's first home buyer budget... Re: Mimosa Homes Melbourne Builder 5Sep 11, 2020 7:32 pm Small Minds Koda67 Whilst I agree with your points on Conditions 10, 11 and 1. I don't agree on your comments with condition 9. The standard HIA contract states that anything done or not done by the Owner or by an agent, contractor or employee of the Owner; the builder is then allowed to extend the contract due to a delay. The private inspector was enforced by YOU, and not not by the builder. Whilst i'm empathetic to items that have not been constructed to code, a private inspection report is not an easy list to read through and something you can complete swiftly. The builder has to read through the report, identify which trades need to be called back, schedule trades, rectify issues, potentially debate defects, fix defects, report the defects back to the owner etc. It is a very length process and takes a lot of time and resources for the builder to go through. Not only that, most of the long inspection reports you may find are from volume built homes. Well derr, they're cheap for a reason, you can't expect a champagne home on a beer budget. Just my $2c, trying to help you see the other side. Koda67. The point I'm making is the legislation is offended by these clauses and they are not enforceable. So why have them? Is it a scare tactic so home owns don't seek out an Independent to find fault. In real terms who caused the fault,, the home owner or the builder? The builder.... If so why penalise the homeowner which appears to be the intent of these special conditions. I can clearly see where you are coming from. I will say that this builder is with the HIA. That is the peek body that looks after builders in Victoria. It is their contract that the builder is using. If these additional conditions were fair and reasonable, their own body, the HIA, should place them in every contract. No they are not reasonable and go to the heart of the problem that we face in Victoria. Builders offending the legislation, treating people with little regard for their rights and using bulldozer tactic in contracts. Buyer beware. Price and promises are forgotten just after the fighting starts. By the way, I love your last comment. Champagne home on a beer budget. The builder states in the contract that he/she will build to the Australian Standards and Laws. That is NOT Champagne. That is just the minimums that are acceptable. Small minds do you have a special interest in darbecca? You seem to target many builders which indirectly/ directly it would then potentially give you more work? One would think this sort of slandering on builders would only have one gain and that being it would then benefit your pocket? Sort of make sense doesn’t it? Sit here degrading the building industry and this in return gives you more work! 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