Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Visible Plasterboard Joins after paint 11Jun 18, 2020 5:33 pm You generally see those joints when the joints were not well sanded. Level 5 is certainly the best thing to have, however, with proper workmanship you shouldn't be see joints that clearly on Level 4 either. Re: Visible Plasterboard Joins after paint 12Jun 18, 2020 9:56 pm They have under filled the joints. When you screw trades down they start looking for any way to save a buck. Maybe they save a bucket of topping per job and it adds up. This budget saving methodology of work gets passed on to anyone they train, so all of a sudden it becomes common place. It's also less sanding so they move quicker. Unfortunately for so many trades (and their builders) it ends up being a race to the bottom. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Visible Plasterboard Joins after paint 14Jun 18, 2020 11:39 pm Thanks for the replies everyone. Much appreciated and very helpful as usual. It’s a shame that home owners are the only ones who get screwed with subpar work in the end as we pay substantial amounts for these homes.. if the builder wants to screw their trades down I don’t feel like that should be on us. Mirrmu83 99% of plasterers on east coast would not be capable of level 5 finish. Its not required. Do you think the joins in rest of house are done any better? Not really.. some (and I mean only a couple) are fine, the rest are just as bad as the white wall photo I posted. I cannot imagine living with the walls as they are for very long, it’s already driving me nuts and it hasn’t been a week. The owner of the franchise has now come back (after seeing my photos) saying he understands and wants us to enjoy our new home which is a good sign, fingers crossed they fix it without a battle. Re: Visible Plasterboard Joins after paint 16Jun 19, 2020 7:03 pm Mirrmu83 how do they fix this now? does basecoat and topcoat stick to the wall? will it have to be roughed up back to basecoat plaster? I’m assuming it’ll need to be sanded back and repainted at the bare minimum. Otherwise, they will probably need to refinish it to a higher finish level. I guess time will tell for us. Re: Visible Plasterboard Joins after paint 18Oct 29, 2020 7:57 pm I have to get around to updating my build thread on these forums as I never seem to find the time but I came across this thread after searching for solutions for plasterboard joins visible due to "Glancing Light". We built with Rawson Homes, handover was in December 2019 and although they are fixing up a very long list of defects (defect rectification has been initially delayed due to Covid but I think the defects list is at about 400 items originally to give you an idea) one major deject in our eyes is the plasterboard joins which are extremely visible. They have tried a few things such as just applying extra coats of paint in one area to see if that helped which it didn't seem to change anything. They also tried to re-skim the joins in another area to feather out the joins more, again no change and actually looks worse because the plasterer didn't sand the new skim properly. Despite this not being an issue we have seen in any of the Rawson Homes display homes, and something we have barely ever seen in any homes we have looked at and we have looked at a lot of display homes for various builders and a lot of home we considered buying, Rawson Homes told us there is nothing else they can do, that's as good as it gets and that every house has the same joins that would be just as visible in the same lighting conditions as it's because of the high windows of this particular design letting in a lot of glancing light ... despite their display home for this exact design not showing the same problem. They then requested that Dept of Fair Trading come to inspect which I thought was odd that a builder would do that themselves. For all those thinking any of the pictures on this thread have been bad so far check out the quality of finish you get from Rawson Homes with we have been told today by a Senior Building Inspector from the Dept of Fair Trading is just due to "Glancing Light" and "Within Tolerance" so there is nothing further Rawson Homes have to do to fix them. We're absolutely shattered / disgusted / you name it, my wife basically stopped talking to the inspector from Fair Trading half way through the meeting and just wanted him and the reps from Rawson to leave as she was sick of hearing how "perfectly fine" our ceilings were despite us standing in the same room at the same time wondering if everyone just had poor eyesight. We're now looking at what legal avenues we have as surely they can't get away with saying this is ok - Downstairs At Night Downstairs During the Day Upstairs During the Day Rawson Display Homes During the Day (just because we were told by Rawson and their plasters that any homes including their own display homes would have the same visible joins) Imagine our surprise when not a single one of their own display homes that we went to see shows any such joins, including ceilings with high widows letting in lots of "Glancing Light", what a joke. Build Thread: Building a Rawson Chifley 42 in Baulkham Hills NSW All progress photos on Google Photos: HERE Re: Visible Plasterboard Joins after paint 19Oct 29, 2020 8:10 pm Stewie D What paint was used? I would only use satin on walls as it won't show as many defects as higher gloss paints. Stewie They used gloss.. they keep mentioning satin colours which would “hide” these, however we were never given the option previously nor was it ever recommended prior to these issues. JiMb00 I have to get around to updating my build thread on these forums as I never seem to find the time but I came across this thread after searching for solutions for plasterboard joins visible due to "Glancing Light". We built with Rawson Homes, handover was in December 2019 and although they are fixing up a very long list of defects (defect rectification has been initially delayed due to Covid but I think the defects list is at about 400 items originally to give you an idea) one major deject in our eyes is the plasterboard joins which are extremely visible. They have tried a few things such as just applying extra coats of paint in one area to see if that helped which it didn't seem to change anything. They also tried to re-skim the joins in another area to feather out the joins more, again no change and actually looks worse because the plasterer didn't sand the new skim properly. Despite this not being an issue we have seen in any of the Rawson Homes display homes, and something we have barely ever seen in any homes we have looked at and we have looked at a lot of display homes for various builders and a lot of home we considered buying, Rawson Homes told us there is nothing else they can do, that's as good as it gets and that every house has the same joins that would be just as visible in the same lighting conditions as it's because of the high windows of this particular design letting in a lot of glancing light ... despite their display home for this exact design not showing the same problem. They then requested that Dept of Fair Trading come to inspect which I thought was odd that a builder would do that themselves. For all those thinking any of the pictures on this thread have been bad so far check out the quality of finish you get from Rawson Homes with we have been told today by a Senior Building Inspector from the Dept of Fair Trading is just due to "Glancing Light" and "Within Tolerance" so there is nothing further Rawson Homes have to do to fix them. We're absolutely shattered / disgusted / you name it, my wife basically stopped talking to the inspector from Fair Trading half way through the meeting and just wanted him and the reps from Rawson to leave as she was sick of hearing how "perfectly fine" our ceilings were despite us standing in the same room at the same time wondering if everyone just had poor eyesight. We're now looking at what legal avenues we have as surely they can't get away with saying this is ok - Downstairs At Night Downstairs During the Day Upstairs During the Day Rawson Display Homes During the Day (just because we were told by Rawson and their plasters that any homes including their own display homes would have the same visible joins) Imagine our surprise when not a single one of their own display homes that we went to see shows any such joins, including ceilings with high widows letting in lots of "Glancing Light", what a joke. Your photos don’t seem to show up mate. Your story sounds very similar to mine, down to the “fixes” which made them worse. My ceilings are also horrible I just can’t get decent photos. Would like to see yours. Re: Visible Plasterboard Joins after paint 20Oct 29, 2020 9:00 pm Feel your pain mate. We are going through the exact same thing at the moment with very noticable joins across 70% of the walls, does my head in. Builders literally singed on the dotted line to repair in the 3 month defect report and are now saying they won't fix it if the plasterer says it's doesn't need to be addressed. I would have thought they would have done that before signing off on the defect list. Not sure how binding that maintenance inspection report is if push comes to shove but we'll soon find out. Thank you alexp79 and gommeqld for your advice, that's very helpful, thanks 3 7945 What we have done in a few theatres ( including my own) is run 2 layers of 13mm gyprock, but sounds insulation especially for the bass is really tricky as a lot of that… 4 2577 Plasterboard Gyprock is very popular as a reveal liner these days. You need to provide a way of supporting it, we use a modified timber reveal or bracket. You will be… 1 4763 |