Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Door edges unpainted 4Nov 06, 2019 12:24 am Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Door edges unpainted 5Nov 06, 2019 6:32 am chippy The internal doors aren't really a huge issue. In the wet areas it's not a bad thing to do but unless they are exposed to lots of damp they are normally fine. The holes in the top and bottom are vents and are designed to be open. The external doors though are a different kettle of fish. You should absolutely paint them. When I hang an external door I always paint underneath and behind the hinges and locks. I carry a primer/sealer and disposable brushes to do it as I know that painters won't do it. Sorry chippy, but I disagree with this in regards to internal doors. All doors should be sealed. I've had a couple warranty claims in the past (solid and hollow core) where doors have bowed. The manufacturer has come out to inspect, and the first thing they check with their viewing mirror is if the doors have been sealed. Wet area or not, a house internally can be subject to large changes in humidity. E.g. humid day in summer and the house is left open, or the house is shut up and the AC is on (humidity removed due to condensation on AC coils). These two examples are from either end of the spectrum, where one has a lot of moisture content in the air, the other not. Regardless of what they say is normal and reasonable, they have no grounds to go against the manufacturers recommendation. Plus, your warranty is void if the doors bow. Re: Door edges unpainted 6Nov 06, 2019 7:09 am chippy The internal doors aren't really a huge issue. In the wet areas it's not a bad thing to do but unless they are exposed to lots of damp they are normally fine. The holes in the top and bottom are vents and are designed to be open. The external doors though are a different kettle of fish. You should absolutely paint them. When I hang an external door I always paint underneath and behind the hinges and locks. I carry a primer/sealer and disposable brushes to do it as I know that painters won't do it. Hi Chippy, we have ceramic tails and have the floors mopped regularly, which potentially leaves the underside/bottom edge of the door to absorb a lot of moisture. The point is when we are paying the builder to do their job properly, I'm sad why they are making us beg for what we've paid for. The industry needs better regulations. Re: Door edges unpainted 7Nov 06, 2019 7:22 am The industry also needs better customers that engage in the process and don’t accept unfair contracts, poor workmanship or woeful customer service! Unfortunately it’s up to consumers because the governments have been afraid to effectively regulate volume builders due to the economic and political risks. I appreciate your sharing and engagement. Re: Door edges unpainted 8Nov 06, 2019 7:38 am Norfolk I would tend to agree with you, but how does someone who is building for the first time, know if the contract is fair or unfair. The onus cannot be put on the customer since this is a standard HIA contract, still being exploited. People are desperate to have a roof over their heads which is fair. Re: Door edges unpainted 9Nov 06, 2019 7:44 am brightstarshine I was naive like you with my recent Metricon build. I thought I just sign the contact, pay the money, leave it to them and walk into my ‘display home’ in 40 weeks time. I I learnt the nature of the industry the hard and expensive way. That’s just not how it works. However, Now the industry has cooled, buyers have significantly more negotiating power and should leverage this assertively at pre contract stage with volume builders. Many volume builders sales are down 20% to 30% versus last year and they are now desperately competing for new customers. Everything is negotiable, including the unfair HIA contract template and special terms that can add security and value for customers. We recently had some good discussion in this forum about negotiating with Wisdom Homes in NSW for example. Engage in the planning and build process and check all workmanship weekly. The volume builders don’t do this because it’s expensive skilled labour and they are protected by the contract and lack of effective regulation. Make progress payments only when it’s confirmed the workmanship at each stage is acceptable... Black on light wood does look good. Not sure if it will be as long lasting as a steel finish? 6 6346 I’m in a similar position except I’m after sliding 3 stacking doors. I am on a second-story apartment of which the balcony would not adequately fit any bi-fold or… 5 16126 Current door width is approx 2700, looking to have double doors fitted 820-820. What size does the frame need to be before door jamb? Thanks 0 3544 |