Browse Forums Renovation + Home Improvement Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 3Oct 14, 2019 7:01 pm Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 6Oct 14, 2019 9:51 pm Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 8Oct 15, 2019 7:34 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 10Oct 15, 2019 10:44 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 11Oct 15, 2019 10:56 am rodels chippy Can you put in a new strut back onto the wall behind rather than worry about the beam? strutvalley strutLike ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ I'm not sure where to extend it to. The photo above shows the room and robe walls in black outline,the joists are green and the red dot shows the position of the strut and where it is on the wall that has the framed door in which I wish to remove. The simplest way I believe for me to tackle this job is to place a strutting beam across the opening. This is because I can easily set up the beam next to the strut and mark it with a pencil then with my circular saw cut the strut remove the foot of the strut and slip the beam in place then restrain the beam. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ You could strut where the 2 purple dots are. Straight down off the valley. Struts should be strapped at the top and blocked at the bottom to prevent movement. You'll probably find that the existing strut doesn't have this but it's the approved method to prevent them moving. Just as a tip. Never cut a strut without putting in alternative strutting, temporary struts or propping the roof members. If you cut or remove an existing existing strut prior to taking the weight and the roof drops you have a real job on your hands to get it back to where it's meant to be. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 12Oct 15, 2019 2:25 pm chippy Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ You could strut where the 2 purple dots are. Straight down off the valley. Struts should be strapped at the top and blocked at the bottom to prevent movement. You'll probably find that the existing strut doesn't have this but it's the approved method to prevent them moving. Just as a tip. Never cut a strut without putting in alternative strutting, temporary struts or propping the roof members. If you cut or remove an existing existing strut prior to taking the weight and the roof drops you have a real job on your hands to get it back to where it's meant to be. OK so my information I put up in the photo was actually incorrect. I got up there this morning with better light and a good camera and flash and you can see that the strut is actually supporting an underperlin and my joist are running perpendicular to what I drew. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Now the picture is totally clear as to my situation and I now realise that a strutting beam is not the best answer here. Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 13Oct 15, 2019 3:09 pm Strutrelocation
Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Now I am thinking along the lines of this configuration. The red line is the section where the wall I am wanting to remove, The yellow are two new struts and the green is bracing. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Mimic what has been done here. Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 15Nov 06, 2019 8:31 am rodels Rang the council today and no permit required for internal works. Did you get it in writing? Here City of Canning website ( and all WA councils are the same) Do I need a Structural Engineer’s certification for alterations to a dwelling? Yes, you will need to have the design checked and certified by a professional Structural Engineer. Building Information Sheet: Dwellings and Alteration OT what they don't tell you on Council websites is that retrospective planning and building approvals will cost you up to 5 times the initial cost with penalties on resubmitting, plans ,engineering, inspections,certifications, etc,etc Unauthorised Building Works Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 16Nov 09, 2019 12:19 pm Your councils in WA must be a lot more anal than they are here in Sydney SBG. Most of them don't want to know about something this minor. I would however get an idea from an engineer or at least 5 minutes of a builders time to point you in the right direction if you are still unsure. Stewie Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 17Nov 10, 2019 8:04 am Any structural alteration will require a building permit. Before building permit is issued BS will ensure that member sized are adequate. Nothing ever happens but when something does everyone runs for cover "It wasn't me" If someone gets hurt or killed, is that the risk you want to take.(possible jail time+ you will loose your shirt to the lawyers) At some point your house will be for sale and purchaser's pre purchase inspector may spot illegal works(as I have many times, what will that do to your asking price? Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 18Nov 10, 2019 8:43 am Also Council Compliance officials (Building Traffic cops) are doing a roaring business, pinging illegal building/structures, non compliance, etc with fines Soon Building Data will be huge business for little and big government enforcement. A Symbiosos between Data/IoT, Capitalism and the law... hth Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 19Nov 10, 2019 11:36 am [quote]Any structural alteration will require a building permit. Before building permit is issued BS will ensure that member sized are adequate.[endquote] Not in our neck of the woods BE. A friend of mine who is an arborist changed his his flat roofed double garage to a pitched roof and beforehand went to our local council. The duty planner said as long as none of your neighbours objected he was fine with it and no DA needed. Another knocked out two internal load bearing walls to create an open plan kitchen/dining/lounge. The other local council said get an engineer to certify the beams to take the roof load and once again - no DA needed as it was internal work. Stewie Re: Roof support, want to remove some walls 20Nov 11, 2019 12:04 pm Hi Stewie I find it hard to believe but then nothing surprises me anymore The first example you give, was duty planner also a BS, qualified to give advice on structural matters of compliance or was he simply referring to planning matters(as I suspect) Then what if the new garage pitched roof wasn’t built properly And it collapsed or was blown off and children died? The second example also does not add up, removing two load bearing walls is a major and just certifying beam sizes(if indeed done) does not deal with possible loss of bracing and possibly undersized footing support, does not ensure that the work has been done properly and there is no insurance for damage or injury. How can this possibly comply with performance requirements of NCC that requires health, safety and amenity of the occupants? Excuse my ignorance, I am not familiar with NSW Cheers Stewie Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog 4 3867 How do you remove one of these ceiling air con vents? And is it possible to disconnect the duct joined to the vent from inside the house, without going into the roof cavity? 0 6179 the step up is 30mm and wanting it to be flat . how much does the concrete have to be lowered .we plan on removing bath and lenghten shower and adding seat. the old bath… 0 12121 |