Browse Forums Home Theatre & Automation Re: Data points expensive 2Oct 11, 2019 6:47 am It is up to you to work out with the builder. Some won’t allow it. Some will. Sometimes you can work with the site supervisor directly. Since you are in Perth I assume you are building full brick. In this case it is a good idea to run in conduit then you can pull the cable after handover if you can’t do it during the build Re: Data points expensive 3Oct 13, 2019 4:50 pm Deacon91 So we have been quoted and this is in Perth, WA, $195 per data point. This seems at the high end for us and it's hard to justify even though we want them. My question is, my father in-law has worked for telstra for 45 years now retired but all his certification is still up to date on all the running of cabling, terminating etc He offered to do it for us for the price of materials and I'll be his labourer for the day. Is this something we can work in with the builder to do ourselves or is this not allowed? Remember the cost is for no mater the length or location, so they average out. That being said, do what you must and what you an do after handover do post. But that being said, the effort and time needed will be at least 1-2 hours of yours and his work. You should be 'billing' your own time at, at least $75 an hour. I think I'm paying $180 per data point. Re: Data points expensive 5Jan 01, 2020 6:11 am I read a lot on here with people running in data points all over their homes. I am keen to know what these are all for. I understand 1 for the main router and maybe for a repeater but isn't everything else connected via wifi???? Re: Data points expensive 6Jan 01, 2020 9:51 am Brett0004 I read a lot on here with people running in data points all over their homes. I am keen to know what these are all for. I understand 1 for the main router and maybe for a repeater but isn't everything else connected via wifi???? PoE data points for Access Points and Security Camera's. But having a wired network to each 'key' area allows for most possible use-case scenarios, that if a network point is needed will be almost impossible to run (for my double storey). But that being said, the data / power tradies Metricon use install not to standard compliance (at least I've observed in my build, with data cables run over/with power cabling). So it's a catch-22. Re: Data points expensive 7Jan 01, 2020 2:31 pm Wifi has quite a few shortcomings 1, point to multi-point means devices are always competing for bandwidth 2, very limited total bandwidth (going to be more of an issue as NBN open up the 1000/50 and 250/100 plans) 3, as the frequency ranges become more populated all the devices slow down, 2.4Ghz has issues with microwaves 4, many cheap wifi routers are not particularly stable or fast, just about every switch is cable of far exceeding your normal internet routers performance these days 5, if you need to connect something to a home router for a fast transfer (say upload x, or stream x) this is easily possible with an ethernet cable, you'll see speeds of 80-100MB/s constant, with Wifi you will not see more than 10-12MB/s having said all that, I'd run conduit so you can run anything you want.. IE HDMI/Copper/Fibre ... Conduit also allows you to run thinks like irrigation solenoid control cables out of your house rather than having to have all this electronics on the outside of your home Slooowwwwly getting a Manhatten 35 in Middleton Grange Re: Data points expensive 8Jan 01, 2020 4:58 pm MR2 Wifi has quite a few shortcomings 1, point to multi-point means devices are always competing for bandwidth 2, very limited total bandwidth (going to be more of an issue as NBN open up the 1000/50 and 250/100 plans) 3, as the frequency ranges become more populated all the devices slow down, 2.4Ghz has issues with microwaves 4, many cheap wifi routers are not particularly stable or fast, just about every switch is cable of far exceeding your normal internet routers performance these days 5, if you need to connect something to a home router for a fast transfer (say upload x, or stream x) this is easily possible with an ethernet cable, you'll see speeds of 80-100MB/s constant, with Wifi you will not see more than 10-12MB/s having said all that, I'd run conduit so you can run anything you want.. IE HDMI/Copper/Fibre ... Conduit also allows you to run thinks like irrigation solenoid control cables out of your house rather than having to have all this electronics on the outside of your home Re: Data points expensive 10Jan 13, 2020 10:44 am If you plan on staying in the house for a while it's worth the additional cost. We've just finished a build and as mentioned in a previous post, had ethernet ports installed in strategic areas. We have 30-something ports around the house which all come back to the patch panel/comms cabinet/switch. So far, no complaints all works as expected despite not receiving a test report for the Cat-6 cabling, I need to do this asap for peace of mind. Re: Data points expensive 11Jan 13, 2020 8:01 pm jacksonfunkdelhorno So far, no complaints all works as expected despite not receiving a test report for the Cat-6 cabling, I need to do this asap for peace of mind. Really, why would you want a full test report for domestic cat 6 installation. Most sparky data installers wouldnt have the expensive test gear any how to correctly certify the cable and install. Plug it in and check it works because most are only going to do a simple polarity test with a cheap $20 tester any way. or better still go to Jaycar and get yourself one. Re: Data points expensive 13Oct 19, 2020 6:14 pm Tubrgoats Sorry, maybe a silly q, But why didnt you go for Cat 7 or Cat 8 ethernet? I am doing my build now and deciding if it is worth the upgrade? Mainly, the cost. Is it worth it in a residential setting, absolutely not. Cat6a is as high as you need to go, but even Cat6 will likely be fine. I went for Cat6 because I could get them installed for $95 each, Cat6a was an upgrade to almost $150 each. 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