Browse Forums General Discussion floor plan dimensions question 8Oct 05, 2019 12:45 pm Our plans show measurements of plastered wall thickness and room dimensions from plaster to plaster.
Unless we have unusually thick frames Re: floor plan dimensions question 9Oct 05, 2019 12:46 pm All construction plan measurements are from wall to wall, whether that be framing member to framing member or brick to brick. No construction plan would be from centre of wall to centre of wall, it's just not how it's done. The reason it is done this way is because the carpenters or bricklayers that set out the house set it out in accord with what they are using (frame or brick). If it was a finished room dimension (plaster to plaster or possibly tile to tile) they would have to know exactly what was being used and calculate that into the set out. There would be to many possibilities for mistakes, so dimensions on plans are always frame to frame or brick to brick. Wall finishes will be added onto that making internal room sizes smaller or external wall sizes larger. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 floor plan dimensions question 10Oct 05, 2019 12:50 pm aussieta all of the plans i have seen show 90mm internal walls which equals stud to stud, so room size after framing, but before plasterboard Actually aussieta, now that you mention it, I went back and looked at our plans and they indicate the frame size, so I stand corrected. Re: floor plan dimensions question 11Oct 05, 2019 2:36 pm chippy All construction plan measurements are from wall to wall, whether that be framing member to framing member or brick to brick. No construction plan would be from centre of wall to centre of wall, it's just not how it's done. The reason it is done this way is because the carpenters or bricklayers that set out the house set it out in accord with what they are using (frame or brick). If it was a finished room dimension (plaster to plaster or possibly tile to tile) they would have to know exactly what was being used and calculate that into the set out. There would be to many possibilities for mistakes, so dimensions on plans are always frame to frame or brick to brick. Wall finishes will be added onto that making internal room sizes smaller or external wall sizes larger. does this only apply for wooden houses? Mine is full brick, unfortunately I don't have a scanner, but I'll see if my phone can take a good picture of my house plans. Note: My house was built almost 20 years ago if it matters. Re: floor plan dimensions question 12Oct 05, 2019 2:44 pm IsabellaBoots chippy All construction plan measurements are from wall to wall, whether that be framing member to framing member or brick to brick. No construction plan would be from centre of wall to centre of wall, it's just not how it's done. The reason it is done this way is because the carpenters or bricklayers that set out the house set it out in accord with what they are using (frame or brick). If it was a finished room dimension (plaster to plaster or possibly tile to tile) they would have to know exactly what was being used and calculate that into the set out. There would be to many possibilities for mistakes, so dimensions on plans are always frame to frame or brick to brick. Wall finishes will be added onto that making internal room sizes smaller or external wall sizes larger. does this only apply for wooden houses? Mine is full brick, unfortunately I don't have a scanner, but I'll see if my phone can take a good picture of my house plans. Note: My house was built almost 20 years ago if it matters. Wood or brick. I've been in construction for 30 years and it's been like that since I started. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: floor plan dimensions question 13Oct 05, 2019 7:43 pm chippy IsabellaBoots chippy All construction plan measurements are from wall to wall, whether that be framing member to framing member or brick to brick. No construction plan would be from centre of wall to centre of wall, it's just not how it's done. The reason it is done this way is because the carpenters or bricklayers that set out the house set it out in accord with what they are using (frame or brick). If it was a finished room dimension (plaster to plaster or possibly tile to tile) they would have to know exactly what was being used and calculate that into the set out. There would be to many possibilities for mistakes, so dimensions on plans are always frame to frame or brick to brick. Wall finishes will be added onto that making internal room sizes smaller or external wall sizes larger. does this only apply for wooden houses? Mine is full brick, unfortunately I don't have a scanner, but I'll see if my phone can take a good picture of my house plans. Note: My house was built almost 20 years ago if it matters. Wood or brick. I've been in construction for 30 years and it's been like that since I started. I've found my plans, couldn't get a clear photo on my phone, but it looks like my plan has measurements for both. So on one side of the drawings there are measurements of the distance from wall to wall plus the measurement of the thicknesses of the walls which is consistent with what you said. But on the opposite site of the drawings there are also measurements of the walls, but from the middle of the walls. Weird, maybe it was just a quirk with my builders. Re: floor plan dimensions question 14Oct 06, 2019 4:52 pm chippy All construction plan measurements are from wall to wall, whether that be framing member to framing member or brick to brick. No construction plan would be from centre of wall to centre of wall, it's just not how it's done. So, should we complain if the actual is not the same as the plan? Re: floor plan dimensions question 15Oct 06, 2019 7:05 pm easty So, should we complain if the actual is not the same as the plan? Well, it depends on what you agreed to in the contract. If they can argue they have given you what the plans specified and those plans were included in the contract, then you are getting what you agreed to pay for. However, if the measurement deviate from the agreed contract, then you have grounds for a complaint, or at least an opening to discuss options. Unfortunately, it may be too far gone for an easy rectification, but you can always use this breach as an "ace up your sleeve" to negotiate something else that might be of more importance you. Sometimes winning a principle might be satisfying, but gets you nothing. Sometimes wining on pragmatism might not feel as good, but can get you something really worthwhile. Re: floor plan dimensions question 16Oct 06, 2019 8:47 pm easty chippy All construction plan measurements are from wall to wall, whether that be framing member to framing member or brick to brick. No construction plan would be from centre of wall to centre of wall, it's just not how it's done. So, should we complain if the actual is not the same as the plan? The plans are the plans and the builders can't just change them on the fly. You mentioned 100mm. That's a huge variation. You can forgive maybe 10mm here or there but basically a good build will be mm accurate and square. If you can read a plan (where measurements start and stop) and can measure accurately and you are certain that the as built doesn't match the plans then I'd definitely be bringing it to the builders attention. Getting measurements right is the very basics of building. If they can get that right it makes it hard to trust in anything else they may do. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: floor plan dimensions question 17Oct 10, 2019 9:57 am Thanks everyone for the input. We had an independent inspection done yesterday and the inspector said that the room dimensions are alright. We measured the windows incorrectly as we only measured the window openings and apparently the dimensions in the drawings include the frame or bricks (or something). Sorry, I forgot the technical terms. Re: floor plan dimensions question 18Oct 10, 2019 11:45 am That's good to hear. 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