Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Steel frames - Coral homes 2May 13, 2019 6:39 am M Y C U S T O M C O R A L B R O N T E 43 ...............Kitchen! 16 Nov 2016 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=79581 Re: Steel frames - Coral homes 10Oct 04, 2019 4:55 am M Y C U S T O M C O R A L B R O N T E 43 ...............Kitchen! 16 Nov 2016 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=79581 Re: Steel frames - Coral homes 12Oct 04, 2019 9:22 am Deleted M Y C U S T O M C O R A L B R O N T E 43 ...............Kitchen! 16 Nov 2016 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=79581 Re: Steel frames - Coral homes 13Oct 04, 2019 9:32 am MrsJM indo26slate Mrs, out of curiosity, have you compared the sound with other steel framed homes? I mean, has anyone on this forum built with a steel frame that can provide their opinion about this? If so, what did they say about the noise in their home? It’s not steel frames, it’s floor joists. Most double story homes would have them id imagine. Also have never heard this noise in any display homes - and I’ve probably spent more time in display homes than most Yes the sound is horrible, I agree. Irrespective of whether it was built using a timber or steel frame, it shouldn't make that sound. The floor joists make up part of the overall frame. So, if the frame is timber then the joists will be timber, and if the frame is steel, then the joists will be steel. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this kind of noise in a 2-story steel framed home. Re: Steel frames - Coral homes 14Oct 15, 2019 10:21 pm indo26slate MrsJM indo26slate Mrs, out of curiosity, have you compared the sound with other steel framed homes? I mean, has anyone on this forum built with a steel frame that can provide their opinion about this? If so, what did they say about the noise in their home? It’s not steel frames, it’s floor joists. Most double story homes would have them id imagine. Also have never heard this noise in any display homes - and I’ve probably spent more time in display homes than most Yes the sound is horrible, I agree. Irrespective of whether it was built using a timber or steel frame, it shouldn't make that sound. The floor joists make up part of the overall frame. So, if the frame is timber then the joists will be timber, and if the frame is steel, then the joists will be steel. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this kind of noise in a 2-story steel framed home. MrsJM, any updates about the dispute? Re: Steel frames - Coral homes 15Oct 15, 2019 10:25 pm thattime catchganu We are building Low Set - 1 Level only. Due to land bring closer to main road, we are adding acoustics as additional as well. thanks will check the Instagram as well That person's story on Instagram is pretty bad. It's not the Coral Homes I know. I have heard of similar problems with noisy floors recently, and in that persons case I'm wondering if it comes down to how they've attached the floor (yellow tongue boards etc) to the frame. But it does sound like a metallic sound, almost clicking. Not good. We built with Coral in 2012/2013 and got their first steel frame built in NSW. The frame is actually a product from Stoddart and a few builders use the same now. Our place was a Noosa design, single level house. Back to the op questions - as a home owner the steel frame layout is the same to work with in some aspects. It has the same basic components as a timber frame (studs, noggins etc) so screwing something to the wall is the same process as timber. My stud finder had no trouble picking the frame up through the plaster. I also got a couple of rare earth strong magnets and they'd stick in the right places too. I can tell you a few carpenters I saw onsite during the build swore off the steel frame. They're obviously used to timber, and soft timber too when the frames are new. So screwing anything in and cutting holes through is trivial, and it's also an easier material to modify on site. The steel frames are tougher, it's a pro and a con. The frames have pre-punched holes for cabling and plumbing to run through, which helps trades a lot - you wouldn't want to be drilling a lot of holes through a steel frame, it'll take a while. I spoke to the guys putting up the Gyprock linings on our place and the steel didn't bother them any. We modified a few smaller elements during our build, including adding a sliding cavity door where there wasn't one on the plan and the frame was modified as required. They can be cut. The frames are an assembled component and can be unscrewed and rejoined. Timber is easier to work with like that, no doubt. I think there's a bit of truth and fud out there on steel. Yes, they do "ping" but in our experience it takes a pretty quick temperature change outside for that to happen. It was the roof trusses that'd ping on our place - there is a little bit of movement in some components. I'd say one issue with steel frames that doesn't get enough attention is the thermal transfer. If you've got a Colorbond steel roof screwed down to steel battons screwed onto steel trusses the outside temperature transfers through that combination. That's the setup we had and I wouldn't say our walls were warm but the few times I was in the roof space on a hot day, the steel trusses were hot to touch and that's all going somewhere. I had two whirlybirds on that roof and vents in the eaves too. For that reason I like the hybrid frames that builders like Clarendon are going with, where it's a steel house frame with timber roof trusses on top. I think the primary reason they do that is for supporting roof tiles, but I like the thermal barrier the timber provides too. We didn't get any cracks in walls and the Coral staff who did the 6 month visit after handover to fix other things said that was interesting to see, because they regularly get cracking with timber framed houses as the timber dries and hardens. I don't know what to make of the concept that steel is rigid so the Gyprock will crack as the "house moves". To my thinking a rigid steel frame is a good thing and the entire point of using steel - these houses are meant to stay where they're built, yes? So any moving in that concept might be the slab moving (settling?) on the ground. That sounds like a different problem to me. Would I build with steel again? Absolutely. We're currently in the council D.A process now for a steel framed house with Mojo. I'm interested to see if if it's same steel frame as their parent McDonald Jones uses - surely it will be. I do know it's a hybrid with the timber trusses on top and I'm happy about that. We'll be using a Hebel Powerfloor (concrete) 1st floor so hopefully we'll completely avoid any floor noise/movement issues like that reported on Instagram, but it'll still be yellow tongue under the wet areas... so, I'll be keeping an eye on that. Thattime, thanks for sharing your findings and experience about building with a steel framed home. Can you clarify, was this a single story or 2-story home? Re: Steel frames - Coral homes 16Oct 21, 2019 6:21 pm Our neighbors have a steel frame home and it is noisy but a different sound to those videos. Apparently it is the steel expanding and contracting. We can hear it from our house and we are on acreage lol. It is loud in their house but they are so used to it now that they don't even notice it. That sucks! Hope it all works out. 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