Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: hiring an engineer - doing struct. fixes on existing hou 2Sep 16, 2019 9:08 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: hiring an engineer - doing struct. fixes on existing hou 4Sep 17, 2019 7:33 am Hi spv IMO, For a one off project it's not worth renting, buying and most are difficult to learn. Find someone who can do your whole project Design, Engineering,construction quants & Data they can give you access to the model via an app viewer and guide you. The secret is to know what is a fair price here 1. Designers use BIM for basic design ( sucker colour Elevations, read on), no Bim engineering and charge 10-15% of the contract 2. Builders do the same and charge 3-5% of the contract. builders don't provide clients with data, nor disclose costs and hold copyright 3. Most Engineers don't use 3D BIM the cost for 2D Engineering is 1% of the contract so there's a disconnect There are a few Designer Engineers ( who are flat out ) that do the complete AEC BIM stuff don't pay more than 2-3% as the AEC BIM process is now automated and linked to industry data Start with an app or sketchup yourself export file ->, pick a revit or vectorworks user-> I personally would avoid archicad as the modelling Kernel and scripting language is antiquated. Just remember if things have to be redone manually it costs more money, so the more you get right with the initial sketch the better. Finally don't get me wrong, I started with coloured 3D elevations 20+ years ago, then moved to engineering BIM where I've realised coloured elevations aren't that important, when your project is non complaint, falling apart and costly to re-engineer a fix. eg Opal Towers So its important to get the engineering right in the first instance, i also use engineering 3D Bim to train trades on site, suits OBs, run simulations, etc,etc It has many more advantages as well hth Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: hiring an engineer - doing struct. fixes on existing hou 5Sep 18, 2019 11:06 pm As a matter of getting a visual for my own purposes, I've drawn the floor and walls using an educational version of Revit, but I had to stop when coming to the roof, as I would need to study up a little to attempt the roof. I've read reviews of sketchup for BIM and it seems to me that there are a lot of 3Rd party add ons required. Some reviewers say, with sketchup, it is not possible to produce a full set of traditional 2D and 3D plans for submission. Whats your opinion, Chris? Re: hiring an engineer - doing struct. fixes on existing hou 6Sep 19, 2019 7:26 am As you have pointed out correctly, all Bim software has strengths and weaknesses, if you are not a data base/family person try vectorworks as you can do almost anything straight out of the box, at half the price, no 3rd party add ons required, blah,blah,blah Don't get too hung up and delayed by 3D coloured visuals, focus on the DATA, Costs (Build), Optimised Solutions and Proofs. Just remember the software is unable to Certify your design/engineering, nor can it physically build your project, you'll need real Tools and skills for that. If you have questions on individual Bim software ask on their respective forums. Please upload your model and data when you pass the coloured rendering stage goodluck Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: hiring an engineer - doing struct. fixes on existing hou 7Sep 20, 2019 1:25 am thanks for the tip Vectorworks looks really good, atleast in final renderings....but probably too pricey for me. I guess I was hoping to get an application with BIM capabilities that I could model everything from the footings, piers to rafters and purlins then produce plans. I think this would be a lot of work (drawing rafters, birdsmouths, underpurlins, brick piers etc.) But applications like vectorworks are over $2000, I might have to try a free alternative. Re: hiring an engineer - doing struct. fixes on existing hou 8Sep 20, 2019 9:16 am Just remember what's Free "may not have value" on the opposite side of the coin what's expensive "may be a rip off" you judge. IMO, Hence the need to evaluate data and proofs. hth Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs 3 6402 The engineering is the engineering. It's irrelevant how much material you have. Unless it fits the requirements of your design the engineer can't "make"it work. You might… 7 9687 The DIY project can be broken into two major steps. Planning and Design and Construction. Both of these steps are as important as one another to ensure you give… 0 5170 |