Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 4Apr 04, 2019 8:35 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 9Apr 05, 2019 8:30 am Before large scale introduction of concrete slabs houses were built as brick veneer on stumps and timber floors. I have built many for Housing Commission of Victoria in the seventies and they are still well performing. So there is nothing inherently wrong with building houses with timber floors, so why do builders go for slabs? Its not cheaper for the consumer but definitely it is more profitable for the builders. Once you factor in site costs and slab upgrades (almost a pure cream for the builders) slabs are definitely not cheaper. In fact I have written before that slabs are a con of the century. Unless you have a flat site and s or m soil classification, forget about slab It's all about profit. I read on this forum from other members, site costs and slab upgrades >50k , absolute madness. Strip footings, stumps and base brickwork does not cost all that much, How much timber could you buy for $50k One of my homes(I did not build it) is a seventies BV on stumps, nothing fancy but a delight to live in, off the ground, dry and healthy. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 10Apr 05, 2019 9:44 am Interesting I have only a raft slab for garage and laundry off garage,then have all house above right to back off block single storey,all on strip footings and huge brick pylons,tongue floor with mostly timber and tiles to bathrooms, performing magnificently, very happy with it. Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 11Apr 05, 2019 9:52 am Yes , what happened about re foresting the planet and reducing co2 emissions. Timber is co2 bank Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 12Apr 05, 2019 10:03 am ![]() Yes , what happened about re foresting the planet and reducing co2 emissions. Timber is co2 bank Yeah I get what you mean. I’d love to use recycled cladding and floorboards but I feel the framing may have to be new timber. I guess I could go recycled for noggins and such Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 13Apr 05, 2019 10:07 am ![]() ![]() Yes , what happened about re foresting the planet and reducing co2 emissions. Timber is co2 bank I’d love to use recycled cladding and floorboards but I feel the framing may have to be new timber. It's all sequested carbon, new or old, it makes no difference. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 14Apr 05, 2019 12:19 pm Was looking, only last week, at a lovely little bed 'n breakfast build coming up in my SA town. Floor frame is supported on a grid of square metal tube stumps. It's, maybe, a metre up off the ground. The amount of earthworks is absolutely minimal. Very tempting approach to building. Not sure, yet, if the owners are going to use recycled timber for the floor but what an economical way to get a cost effective, aesthetically pleasing solution to the house base. Going to be a doddle to pop in the plumbing, and stuff, too. Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 15Jun 05, 2020 2:04 am *bump* Interestingly, i have a sloping sandy site which i am being told will cost me ‘$100,000 to get out of the ground’. Being an enviro, I am keen for a light construction, enviro friendly etc. so keen on stumps. That will also help maximise my views... But most project builder are all about the concrete slab! I always knew that sloping sites would be pricey, but didnt quite expect $100,000k before i’ve even got one room... Anyone have costs to build on poles / stumps / stilts?? Thanks V Re: Why don’t builders build on stumps? 16Jun 05, 2020 12:02 pm Worth checking out Cupolex (www.cupolex.com.au), you may use their Rialto system is a good alternative to pier-and-beam foundation at a fraction of the cost - they can go up to 2.5 m Some concrete will still be needed, however, you would need it for your stumps too. If you're in a flood zone, not only are you dealing with the importation of fill and laying it down in 150 lifts to achieve compaction, you're going to have to consider… 4 5537 ![]() Are they stumps or screw piles ? How much fill is there, is the site a class "P" ? A "H2" site is not supposed to have stumps it is supposed to have grid beams according… 1 6955 That sucks! Hope it all works out. Good to move away from steel anyway for all your reasons, but it's also thermally poor. 16 17895 |