Browse Forums Building A New House The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 62Mar 27, 2019 11:55 am Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 63Mar 27, 2019 12:00 pm Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 64Mar 27, 2019 12:15 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 66Mar 27, 2019 12:26 pm There are ways of getting change, much more need to book in a appointment with their local politicians, tell them your concerns both personally and anything else you know,this has worked for me in many areas of concern over the years,don't stop at one try,make it a yearly thing both state and federal,change happens more when a shark bites their own backsides,believe me it works especially in numbers and multiple reporting from everywhere,it's also what their for,start the ball rolling. Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 67Mar 27, 2019 12:32 pm Also if everyone reports their experiences to the ACCC on their website the sheer number of reports will prompt their investigation, despite the political sensitivity of doing something to regulate the consumer building industry. Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 68Mar 27, 2019 1:44 pm Norfolk May we know on what legal basis the builder pressured the forum and yourself to remove the posts? Read my earlier post's reference to Whirlpool Forums that covered this. Of interest, Product Review does not take kindly to demands for review removal. The thread below shows this when Wisdom Homes left their 'wisdom' at the gate and successfully had reviews posted by Wisdom Homes customers deleted through the enforcement of what was later deemed by the ACCC to be an Unfair Contract Clause. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=86252 To Wisdom Homes credit, their customer service has seen many positive comments on this forum since then. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 69Mar 27, 2019 3:49 pm In fact, I really doubt that there is any legal ground here. He is was just threatened by lawyers from Wincrest and then his lawyer have calculated what it will take to get this full case to court in front of a jury. With only exception, that this case can be taken on a pro bono basis or win cut basis by a seriously positioned law firm and they could easily sue Wincrest to death with all this evidence he has gathered. Wincrest will be also spending 2-3 times more cash on defending themselves too. The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 70Mar 27, 2019 3:53 pm SaveH2O Norfolk May we know on what legal basis the builder pressured the forum and yourself to remove the posts? Read my earlier post's reference to Whirlpool Forums that covered this. Of interest, Product Review does not take kindly to demands for review removal. The thread below shows this when Wisdom Homes left their 'wisdom' at the gate and successfully had reviews posted by Wisdom Homes customers deleted through the enforcement of what was later deemed by the ACCC to be an Unfair Contract Clause. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=86252 To Wisdom Homes credit, their customer service has seen many positive comments on this forum since then. You are so right. The GM of Wisdom ( wish I could mention his name but no names allowed) even reached out to me to arrange a coffee. He has really changed the way their business deals with customers and I genuinely believe its a model that should be copied by other smart builders who want to create a loyal list of customers The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 71Mar 27, 2019 4:17 pm Norfolk May we know on what legal basis the builder pressured the forum and yourself to remove the posts? Why would money need to be spent on legal fees if your posts are just some facts and your opinions? I thought sharing these is the reason for the forum? Below are the terms of service for this website that were referenced: 5. 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Your builder would be much better off acting ethically to improve their own reputation rather than taking deceptive, unfounded and threatening actions against you and Homeone. They will do more damage to themselves with this behaviour. You should report them to the ACCC for this unconscionable behaviour towards customers and Homeone - a useful service that promotes the sharing of information to assist and empower both consumers and builders. Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 73Mar 27, 2019 6:55 pm 5.3.4 is written poorly. Should be extended to note in relation to false or misleading claims. Absolutely nothing wrong with disseminating negative feedback if the statements are factual. ai There's plenty of information on here, with not so positive comments, but when it's backed up with photographic evidence or reports it's hard to claim it's simple malicious Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 76Mar 27, 2019 7:21 pm What the forum puts in their own T&C’s is completely up to them and to enforce or modify as they deem appropriate. It is not up to, or appropriate for the builders lawyers to enforce the website’s T&C’s. it is normal practice for lawyers to bluff however! Which in this case seems to have been effective. Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 77Mar 27, 2019 7:27 pm The moderator risks the credibility and future value of the website if they filter out negative but substantiated information and comments based on threats and bluffs. Positive and negative information should be shared to help others, including the builders. Re: A big Builder is threatening to sue for defamation 79Mar 27, 2019 7:54 pm I appreciate your concern and here's some comment and clarity from us. Should any content be removed directly by us (homeone.com.au, or any voluntary moderators) as a result of any removal request, we prefer to make a statement. That said, members are usually contacted directly by their respective company with some form of cease and desist and / or removal request, and in many cases unbeknownst to us. In this instance, as SajaeD has pointed out, he has removed posts in accordance with a removal request by Wincrest Homes. The perceived contravention of a particular homeone.com.au term was a broad term cited (as originally drafted by LAC Lawyers many years ago) and of course, without specifics and resultant claims pertaining to objectionable content nothing is generally acted upon. Specific claims (whether adequate / agreeable) were provided in the removal request which I prefer not to go into out of respect for the member and builder as the presumption is that this is currently an ongoing dispute. We can only hope for positive resolve between the two parties. The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolutio 80Mar 28, 2019 11:02 am The parties have reached a mutual understanding in resolution of each of the other parties concerns Simeon McGovern Affordable Custom Homes, We design and build to your budget Ashington Homes www.ashingtonhomes.com.au Like with any service, they don't have to compete on price. They know the market rate for a particular service and offer it for a relatively same price. I am not a sparky… 1 3702 ask the surveyor for clarification would be the logical approach 1 16028 6 7974 |