If the plaster gets rain damaged it'll need replacing. I just don't get why they don't wait...
Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Porter Davis homes 16988May 14, 2018 11:13 pm Building a Madison 45 with Porter Davis Madison 45 Blog (Send me a PM with your email address to be added) Re: Porter Davis homes 16997May 16, 2018 3:56 pm Building a Madison 45 with Porter Davis Madison 45 Blog (Send me a PM with your email address to be added) Re: Porter Davis homes 16999May 16, 2018 7:40 pm Rameez inphaze Hi Rameez I may have not given you correct information, so please don't take my word for it. We are currently building an Advantage range home, but are looking at Smart Living for an investment property, we have done a little bit of research into Smart Living, but not as much as we did for our Advantage range home. I mistakenly thought that the description you had included was for the basic inclusion staircase and not for the upgraded staircase. I've had a much closer look at the description you included and it does look like it is only stained for the handrail. There are quite a few mentions of paint grade in your description, if this is the description for your upgraded Traditional option 2 staircase then it looks like it won't be stained after all. If you can't get the Sales Consultant to commit to the staircase being non-carpeted and stained in writing, then I think you are justified feeling no confidence that it will actually change in the contract. I've heard that these Smart Living homes are not very flexible with changes being made. If you don't see a description similar to the one I included in my previous post in your contract, then don't sign it. They will hold you to the exact letter of the contract, so if it doesn't say what you want then don't sign it till they actually include the correct wording. I think where it says 'cover grade treads and risers' this means it's only suitable for carpet and it most likely a cheap material like MDF, not really suitable for painting or staining. You will need it to say 'Stain grade treads and risers', as well as 'stain grade closed stringer. My apologies for giving the wrong info in my earlier post, I should have read your post more thoroughly before writing. Hi inphaze, That's alright. I agree. There is not much you can change in Smart Living. Poor product introduced by PD. We can't even get PD to add a door to an ensuite as they strictly deny to have any changes to the house. I wouldn't recommend Smart Living range product if you are looking at making any changes to the plan for your investment property. We should have thought about it before signing the quote. I am afraid I would have $1000 out of pocket expense post handover to get the door installed to our ensuite. Well, our standard inclusion says cover grade treads and risers. You read it right. I added the detailed wordings from our standard inclusions. However, on the upgrade brochure it's just 1 line. It says "upgrade to traditional option 2 NC staircase" in Luxe pack. We have upgraded to luxe pack. Not much information to rely on. Couldn't find anything on the internet regarding NC staircase. I have asked our sales consultant to confirm it again. Let's see what he comes back with. I hope he agrees to have it writing from the Head office that we do get timber stained staircase. OK, so that description was from your basic inclusions list, then I stand by my original comments. If you have an upgrade in your Luxe Package to a Traditional Staircase - option #2, then it will most likely look very similar to the image I posted. I can't imagine that they would have the same name for different styles of staircases dependant on the house type. Just make sure what it written in the contract looks like the extract from ours that I posted Re: Porter Davis homes 17000May 17, 2018 9:23 am inphaze Rameez inphaze Hi Rameez I may have not given you correct information, so please don't take my word for it. We are currently building an Advantage range home, but are looking at Smart Living for an investment property, we have done a little bit of research into Smart Living, but not as much as we did for our Advantage range home. I mistakenly thought that the description you had included was for the basic inclusion staircase and not for the upgraded staircase. I've had a much closer look at the description you included and it does look like it is only stained for the handrail. There are quite a few mentions of paint grade in your description, if this is the description for your upgraded Traditional option 2 staircase then it looks like it won't be stained after all. If you can't get the Sales Consultant to commit to the staircase being non-carpeted and stained in writing, then I think you are justified feeling no confidence that it will actually change in the contract. I've heard that these Smart Living homes are not very flexible with changes being made. If you don't see a description similar to the one I included in my previous post in your contract, then don't sign it. They will hold you to the exact letter of the contract, so if it doesn't say what you want then don't sign it till they actually include the correct wording. I think where it says 'cover grade treads and risers' this means it's only suitable for carpet and it most likely a cheap material like MDF, not really suitable for painting or staining. You will need it to say 'Stain grade treads and risers', as well as 'stain grade closed stringer. My apologies for giving the wrong info in my earlier post, I should have read your post more thoroughly before writing. Hi inphaze, That's alright. I agree. There is not much you can change in Smart Living. Poor product introduced by PD. We can't even get PD to add a door to an ensuite as they strictly deny to have any changes to the house. I wouldn't recommend Smart Living range product if you are looking at making any changes to the plan for your investment property. We should have thought about it before signing the quote. I am afraid I would have $1000 out of pocket expense post handover to get the door installed to our ensuite. Well, our standard inclusion says cover grade treads and risers. You read it right. I added the detailed wordings from our standard inclusions. However, on the upgrade brochure it's just 1 line. It says "upgrade to traditional option 2 NC staircase" in Luxe pack. We have upgraded to luxe pack. Not much information to rely on. Couldn't find anything on the internet regarding NC staircase. I have asked our sales consultant to confirm it again. Let's see what he comes back with. I hope he agrees to have it writing from the Head office that we do get timber stained staircase. OK, so that description was from your basic inclusions list, then I stand by my original comments. If you have an upgrade in your Luxe Package to a Traditional Staircase - option #2, then it will most likely look very similar to the image I posted. I can't imagine that they would have the same name for different styles of staircases dependant on the house type. Just make sure what it written in the contract looks like the extract from ours that I posted Hi inphaze, I am also confused by the wordings in the description. Not sure what 'NC' stands for in "Upgrade to Traditional Option 2 NC Staircase". If I go by simple logic, for me it is Non-carpeted. However, PD's inference for 'NC' would be different. Yeah, we had issues in our contract and got it escalated to fix it. I wouldn't sign it unless I get everything perfect and that reflects on the contract drawings. Three options 1 Ask the liquidator 2 Find another PD customer and ask the source of their report 3 Pay for new report 3 12182 Ask for references and speak to them. If they are defensive or try to avoid the request, walk. 1 74220 I would never build with Fowler homes. I built with them in 2021 and till date maintenance issues are pending. All their existing trades and businesses don't work with… 14 105134 |