Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 2May 09, 2018 9:52 am lys245 Hi Homeone universe We were just about to sign off on our final plans so construction can commence, and we have just found out that sarking is NOT included. The builder is of course happy to offer it now as an upgrade but I just wanted to get a sense for whether we should definitely get it or not. I keep seeing mixed reviews online. Some people say if you get roof sarking then you definitely need a whirlybird. And that we need to do sarking now because it's way too difficult to do it later. Others say you don't need sarking. What is everyone's experience? Help! Sark!!!! It will give some sort of a barrier against minor leaks, especially if you have tiles. Should not be too expensive I hope. Coral build- Modified Bronte 42 - We're in!!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=82234&p=1513775&hilit=coral+modified+bronte#p1513775 Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 3May 09, 2018 9:54 am Corallake lys245 Hi Homeone universe We were just about to sign off on our final plans so construction can commence, and we have just found out that sarking is NOT included. The builder is of course happy to offer it now as an upgrade but I just wanted to get a sense for whether we should definitely get it or not. I keep seeing mixed reviews online. Some people say if you get roof sarking then you definitely need a whirlybird. And that we need to do sarking now because it's way too difficult to do it later. Others say you don't need sarking. What is everyone's experience? Help! Sark!!!! It will give some sort of a barrier against minor leaks, especially if you have tiles. Should not be too expensive I hope. Thanks Corallake! We are getting a tiled roof (not colorbond). Did you need to get whirlybirds too? Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 4May 09, 2018 9:55 am lys245 Corallake lys245 Hi Homeone universe We were just about to sign off on our final plans so construction can commence, and we have just found out that sarking is NOT included. The builder is of course happy to offer it now as an upgrade but I just wanted to get a sense for whether we should definitely get it or not. I keep seeing mixed reviews online. Some people say if you get roof sarking then you definitely need a whirlybird. And that we need to do sarking now because it's way too difficult to do it later. Others say you don't need sarking. What is everyone's experience? Help! Sark!!!! It will give some sort of a barrier against minor leaks, especially if you have tiles. Should not be too expensive I hope. Thanks Corallake! We are getting a tiled roof (not colorbond). Did you need to get whirlybirds too? Yes. It gets a lot of heat up there and it needs to get out in summer especially! Coral build- Modified Bronte 42 - We're in!!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=82234&p=1513775&hilit=coral+modified+bronte#p1513775 Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 5May 09, 2018 9:56 am We are building with Coral and put sarking in the roof. The whirly bird was included in the price and cost about $2500 for it to be done. It is a personal preference, but it helps to keep out dust and if you have a big storm, it helps to keep water out of the roof space by running it out to the edge. It also helps to keep your house cooler in summer and warmer in winter. We had sarking in our last house and had an awful storm that moved tiles and knocked trees over, but we had no water inside the house and that is why we have done it again. No, you can't put in sarking after the tiles go on as it goes between the frame and the tiles. Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 6May 09, 2018 11:51 am Add sarking. Along with being a barrier against leaks, it's a radiant heat barrier & will improve your comfort in summer. Builders are very happy to build to the minimum standards when it comes to thermal efficiency. You shouldn't be. You'll be the one living in the house, & paying the heating/cooling bills. The builders won't (hence most don't give a crap). Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 7May 09, 2018 12:02 pm lys245 Hi Homeone universe We were just about to sign off on our final plans so construction can commence, and we have just found out that sarking is NOT included. The builder is of course happy to offer it now as an upgrade but I just wanted to get a sense for whether we should definitely get it or not. I keep seeing mixed reviews online. Some people say if you get roof sarking then you definitely need a whirlybird. And that we need to do sarking now because it's way too difficult to do it later. Others say you don't need sarking. What is everyone's experience? Help! Go for sarking now. Whirlybird can be done later if you really require it. Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 8May 09, 2018 2:24 pm Thanks bestspecials IamsAM and ddarroch for your feedback and advice - really appreciate it!!! Sarking seems so important so it baffles me why it's not a standard inclusion! Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 9May 09, 2018 2:26 pm It's included in the Lux inclusions work Rawson Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 10May 10, 2018 9:56 am Thanks again guys. And this is probably a stupid question, but for our walls, batts are standard and wall wrap isn't. You get one right? Or do people get both? Clearly I'm not in construction... Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 11May 10, 2018 10:24 am lys245 Thanks again guys. And this is probably a stupid question, but for our walls, batts are standard and wall wrap isn't. You get one right? Or do people get both? Clearly I'm not in construction... Coral comes standard with wall wrap only for the walls and batts only for the ceiling. That's why we added sarking to the roof. We aren't bothering with batts in the walls. Some people get both, I suppose it depends if you want extra insulation or not. Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 12May 10, 2018 11:50 am Wrapping should be standard. If not, you should no question. Batts, usually standard in ceiling and external walls.If building a two story definitely put batts in floor. AND if you have a media room, highly recommend sound batts in ceiling and walls to deaden the noise. Coral build- Modified Bronte 42 - We're in!!! https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=82234&p=1513775&hilit=coral+modified+bronte#p1513775 Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 13May 10, 2018 12:10 pm Batts and wall wraps have different purposes, and it should never be one or the other, but both. Wrapping protects your frame from water ingress and reduces air leakage (improving energy efficiency and help keeping out dust and pollen), but only provides a minimal thermal barrier. Batts are straightforward thermal insulation. The two work well together. Batts (both wall and ceiling) are one of the cheapest and most effective ways you can improve the comfort and energy efficiency of your home. Putting in wall batts is simple and cheap to do in construction, and much more painful (and expensive) to retrofit later. You'll make back the cost of batts in reduced energy bills within a few years, and your house will be more comfortable to live in. Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 14May 11, 2018 1:33 pm I've not had experience with sarking in my previous homes, but have been curious about it as it seems that there are some advantages to potentially be had. With sarking installed, it seems to me that it will put more emphasis on the convenience of accessing your roof cavity via an internal manhole in the ceiling. Is this something that should also be a consideration when choosing to sark or not? In the past, when I've had to get in to my roof, I've kicked back some roof tiles and gone in that way. Am I right to say that sarking would completely stop you from being able to do this? Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 15May 14, 2018 7:58 pm Definitely sarking and wall wrap!!! Houses should not be built with out these!!! Especially tiled roofs!! Batts in the ceiling and external walls also, you'll struggle achieve energy efficiency compliance without. ^^^Man hole best for roof access, much easier and safer than removing tiles and getting up on the roof. Yes sarking will be in the way if you access your roof through the tiles but it beats getting a water leak. Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 16May 17, 2018 9:34 am Thanks everyone! We decided to go with sarking and our builder said the costing would be $2300. I hope they aren't taking us for a ride knowing we need to do it during construction... Does that price seem reasonable? We are building a single level home with an area of about 200m2. Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 17May 17, 2018 9:47 am lys245 Thanks everyone! We decided to go with sarking and our builder said the costing would be $2300. I hope they aren't taking us for a ride knowing we need to do it during construction... Does that price seem reasonable? We are building a single level home with an area of about 200m2. I checked a quote from Metricon for similar size - $2445. Sarking also comes in varying quality so check on that too. Re: Sarking - to sark or not to sark? 19May 17, 2018 11:07 am lys245 Thank you iamsam - I think we are getting heavy duty sarking. Is that what you mean by quality? 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