Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Single story vs double story 11Jan 10, 2018 8:12 am Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Single story vs double story 12Jan 10, 2018 9:07 am On 1000sqm I would go single for sure. We are building a 40sq double but our land is 645. Our yard is quite big and yours would be bigger than ours even with a single. A single storey the same size as a double will save you on facade costs (no balcony, less front to pretty up etc) and stairs. Plus plumbing, electrical etc all require cables running upstairs which would be factored in to the base price. Also you will have more freedom with the size of your windows because you aren’t overlooking other people. The build will be faster because there’s no putting up, adjusting and removing scaffolding. In a double storey they do upper gutter and fascia, upper roof tiles/colourbond, upper eaves, then lower the scaffolding to do it all again on the lower roofs. It’s the same with bricks, the bricklaying and cleaning is done in 2 parts. So a couple of months less of build time to factor in to the cost savings too. It’s also easier for elderly/disabled and young children to not have stairs. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Single story vs double story 13Jan 10, 2018 9:39 am MandM+4 On 1000sqm I would go single for sure. We are building a 40sq double but our land is 645. Our yard is quite big and yours would be bigger than ours even with a single. A single storey the same size as a double will save you on facade costs (no balcony, less front to pretty up etc) and stairs. Plus plumbing, electrical etc all require cables running upstairs which would be factored in to the base price. Also you will have more freedom with the size of your windows because you aren’t overlooking other people. The build will be faster because there’s no putting up, adjusting and removing scaffolding. In a double storey they do upper gutter and fascia, upper roof tiles/colourbond, upper eaves, then lower the scaffolding to do it all again on the lower roofs. It’s the same with bricks, the bricklaying and cleaning is done in 2 parts. So a couple of months less of build time to factor in to the cost savings too. It’s also easier for elderly/disabled and young children to not have stairs. Can I ask what you went with for your staircase? We have tried to cut back things on the double story but can’t make anymore that we could do later on. Our builder has allocated an allowance of $4,000 extra for the open tread staircase but we don’t think that will give us exactly what we want as most of the staircases we like are around the 10-12k price mark. So the concern is we will go to contract on it and then find out it’s an extra 6k or so. Re: Single story vs double story 14Jan 10, 2018 9:59 am Brenton41 MandM+4 On 1000sqm I would go single for sure. We are building a 40sq double but our land is 645. Our yard is quite big and yours would be bigger than ours even with a single. A single storey the same size as a double will save you on facade costs (no balcony, less front to pretty up etc) and stairs. Plus plumbing, electrical etc all require cables running upstairs which would be factored in to the base price. Also you will have more freedom with the size of your windows because you aren’t overlooking other people. The build will be faster because there’s no putting up, adjusting and removing scaffolding. In a double storey they do upper gutter and fascia, upper roof tiles/colourbond, upper eaves, then lower the scaffolding to do it all again on the lower roofs. It’s the same with bricks, the bricklaying and cleaning is done in 2 parts. So a couple of months less of build time to factor in to the cost savings too. It’s also easier for elderly/disabled and young children to not have stairs. Can I ask what you went with for your staircase? We have tried to cut back things on the double story but can’t make anymore that we could do later on. Our builder has allocated an allowance of $4,000 extra for the open tread staircase but we don’t think that will give us exactly what we want as most of the staircases we like are around the 10-12k price mark. So the concern is we will go to contract on it and then find out it’s an extra 6k or so. We have carpet stairs with mitred handrail and saw tooth capping, in paint finish. Was $3000 extra. $4k May be enough for open risers in maple, but it wouldn’t be with my builder as just to stain hardwood alone is over $1000 I think. And that wouldn’t include an upgraded handrail. But the price of the basic stairs is in the base price of your house, a single storey house of the same size would have a cheaper base price. Glass balustrade is about $1000 per glass panel, very roughly speaking, then staining the timber is extra. Building Monte Carlo 40- Wisdom homes Re: Single story vs double story 15Jan 10, 2018 11:37 am MandM+4 Brenton41 MandM+4 On 1000sqm I would go single for sure. We are building a 40sq double but our land is 645. Our yard is quite big and yours would be bigger than ours even with a single. A single storey the same size as a double will save you on facade costs (no balcony, less front to pretty up etc) and stairs. Plus plumbing, electrical etc all require cables running upstairs which would be factored in to the base price. Also you will have more freedom with the size of your windows because you aren’t overlooking other people. The build will be faster because there’s no putting up, adjusting and removing scaffolding. In a double storey they do upper gutter and fascia, upper roof tiles/colourbond, upper eaves, then lower the scaffolding to do it all again on the lower roofs. It’s the same with bricks, the bricklaying and cleaning is done in 2 parts. So a couple of months less of build time to factor in to the cost savings too. It’s also easier for elderly/disabled and young children to not have stairs. Can I ask what you went with for your staircase? We have tried to cut back things on the double story but can’t make anymore that we could do later on. Our builder has allocated an allowance of $4,000 extra for the open tread staircase but we don’t think that will give us exactly what we want as most of the staircases we like are around the 10-12k price mark. So the concern is we will go to contract on it and then find out it’s an extra 6k or so. We have carpet stairs with mitred handrail and saw tooth capping, in paint finish. Was $3000 extra. $4k May be enough for open risers in maple, but it wouldn’t be with my builder as just to stain hardwood alone is over $1000 I think. And that wouldn’t include an upgraded handrail. But the price of the basic stairs is in the base price of your house, a single storey house of the same size would have a cheaper base price. Glass balustrade is about $1000 per glass panel, very roughly speaking, then staining the timber is extra. Yeah that’s what I thought. Definitely looking at 10k or so for open tread and a decent ballaustrade. Re: Single story vs double story 16Jan 10, 2018 6:19 pm I would add 100k to any build for the same sqm in double storey vs single story once you include site costs stair cases ect. If your 2nd storey view will add 100k or you havent got the room go for it. see more at hoffmangoldwithporterdavis.wordpress.com Re: Single story vs double story 17Jan 10, 2018 7:50 pm brucefil2011 I would add 100k to any build for the same sqm in double storey vs single story once you include site costs stair cases ect. If your 2nd storey view will add 100k or you havent got the room go for it. see more at hoffmangoldwithporterdavis.wordpress.com I agree. In this case we can build a good sized single story home and have the nice extra’s like high/raked ceilings and floor to ceiling tiling in all wet areas unlike the 2 story build we would be doing. Re: Single story vs double story 18Jan 11, 2018 4:03 am Brenton41 sparrowsnest By going double story you add cost straight away just in the extra materials for load bearing walls etc when I looked a couple of years ago it was $20k plus just for that. It’s definitely cheaper per m2 to build single story if you’ve got the land space for it. Building our first custom dream home. https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_ ... are_type=t Cheers for the feedback on that. We can achieve what we want in single story which is a good thing. Can’t shake the idea of a double story but will keep working on the floor plans and get something sorted I wanted an open plan double story with voids- I wouldn’t even look at a floor plan without voids. After a recent sickness in my house (and just daily life really!) i am 12 months post handover and I’d turn the clock back if I could and build a single level! What I would say is think about the things you can’t live without- things that can’t easily be upgraded down the track... if you have your heart set on a few of these things, think about whether there are a few other not so important items to trade off. For us, the staircase was important, so we simply have a mortgage that’s a bit bigger than it otherwise would have been, but we are still being financially responsible- but we also have the staircase I couldn’t do without. Having said that , these ‘must haves’ quickly add up when they are individually expensive. Just don’t discount a single level home because you’ve always had a double in mind. I would almost say I went into the admin/shopping stage blinded by what I thought I had always wanted. M Y C U S T O M C O R A L B R O N T E 43 ...............Kitchen! 16 Nov 2016 https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=79581 Re: Single story vs double story 19Jan 11, 2018 7:58 am MrsJM Brenton41 sparrowsnest By going double story you add cost straight away just in the extra materials for load bearing walls etc when I looked a couple of years ago it was $20k plus just for that. It’s definitely cheaper per m2 to build single story if you’ve got the land space for it. Building our first custom dream home. https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_ ... are_type=t Cheers for the feedback on that. We can achieve what we want in single story which is a good thing. Can’t shake the idea of a double story but will keep working on the floor plans and get something sorted I wanted an open plan double story with voids- I wouldn’t even look at a floor plan without voids. After a recent sickness in my house (and just daily life really!) i am 12 months post handover and I’d turn the clock back if I could and build a single level! What I would say is think about the things you can’t live without- things that can’t easily be upgraded down the track... if you have your heart set on a few of these things, think about whether there are a few other not so important items to trade off. For us, the staircase was important, so we simply have a mortgage that’s a bit bigger than it otherwise would have been, but we are still being financially responsible- but we also have the staircase I couldn’t do without. Having said that , these ‘must haves’ quickly add up when they are individually expensive. Just don’t discount a single level home because you’ve always had a double in mind. I would almost say I went into the admin/shopping stage blinded by what I thought I had always wanted. I think we are nearly spot on the same with that mindset. We have just sold our first home that we built without a Metricon which was a pretty entry level single story. We had it in our mind that going double story would be big and grand as we want to stay in this house for the next 10 years or so. The good thing is our budget is good so we can build a great single story home and have all the bells and whistles or go for the double story but I just didn’t want the original quote to blow over another 10k from where we are already at. Need to make that decision now and make sure we don’t regret doing it. Re: Single story vs double story 20Jan 13, 2018 2:22 pm Just my 2 cents worth... Your block is quite big compared to most and you will find that there is a minimum percentage of land that you can't build on (I suppose this depends the Council regulations you are dealing with too) having said that you can build a single story grant home/mansion with all the bells and whistles (like you said) and have decent yard. However, how close are your neighbours? Are you in a new estate (if so you can probably jump onto the local council site Application Tracker (or equivalent) and check what your neighbours will be building next to you. I don't think I could stand having a double story next to me if I went single (that's just me though). Another reason as stated by one of the members above is the view: if a second story would take advantage of that and increase the value of your home and can't be out built by other homes around you over time, then the outlay now will be beneficial later. Stairs? We were quoted $14000 for open treads and glass around the void. Gorgeous, yes, did we do it? No. You can always put glass in later and if you have kids and pets be prepared to wipe the smears very regularly. And the obvious 'up and down'. We have 18 stairs straight up and by the 15th time it kind of gets tiring. There are some stunning single story homes you can really add some oomph instead of having to pay for extras for two story as Structural Guy stated (scaffold, barricades and safety items) which can amount to $20-$25K. You've been through it before so you should be right with the process. Good luck! 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