Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 5Nov 29, 2017 6:08 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 6Nov 29, 2017 6:16 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 8Nov 29, 2017 6:53 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 9Nov 29, 2017 7:17 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. 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Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 12Nov 30, 2017 8:15 am Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 13Nov 30, 2017 8:22 am building-expert Yes, we are entering new phase brought about by ineptitude and unwillingness of our regulatory system to tackle and crunch builders that are getting out of line more and more. 1 Some large and medium tier builders are using their market power to refuse negotiations on terms of contract that are unfair and unconscionable. 2 I am seeing more and more of what used to be builder's risk shoved on to the owners 3 Builders are circumventing owners appointing their own building surveyors with undue pressure. I have seen a special condition which says that builder will not necessarily produce a display home standard when in fact this is in direct contradiction of the DBCA 1995. Our building control is a scam, our consumer protection is a scam. When was the last time builder went to jail for fr@ud? Yet homeowners are regularly defr@uded through systematic pilfering and under delivery. That's the way it is and if you have no one in your corner it will be like industrial soccer league 4 (you), playing premier league team(builders). Who is going to score your dollars? For those who don't know, get a good building consultant to assist you with your build. For those who should have known better(and there are many) tough luck. Agreed - I have recently had a slab poured - we can have inspections privately - but what about the plumbers who do the pipe underground - how do we check that they have done the work correctly - I think that is most important part because a broken pipe here will ruin all the independent inspectors we employ to rectify the structural if the base is getting a lot of water under the slab. No building private inspector company had a answer - the only answer I got was we are not plumbers - Or take the case of when they put up the plaster - after that Which private inspector will check that the tradies haven't blasted nails through the water / gas pipes - u could have a nail stuck in a gas pipe for years - follow my build Arden homes Votivo 37 iin south east: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=88622 Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 14Nov 30, 2017 8:26 am bank There was nothing like that in our contract. They shouldn't receive any additional time to read the report or rectify defects. They should be building the house to a reasonable standard in the first place. They're in a round a bout way saying if we have to fix your house up to meet the standards we'll need another 8 weeks! Seems ridiculous to me. It doesn't take a supervisor 2 weeks to read a report and any action required should be on their time. it takes time because - example your inspector completed the inspection at 1630 - prepared the report for frame stage and sends it to the SS and you the next day - The Framers have already started at another location - So the SS will need time to arrange for them to come and fix the problems- follow my build Arden homes Votivo 37 iin south east: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=88622 Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 15Nov 30, 2017 8:27 am SaveH2O I was talking to a senior person in the VBA a few weeks ago about the VBA being unable to stop umbrageous coercion used to erode a new home buyer's rights such as those you have mentioned. It is not a good situation that appears to be coming more common and certainly a worry for you so soon along your journey. What was the outcome of that conversation with that senior person? I'm currently in the 'cold war' phase of my negotiations regarding the appointment of an 'independent' building surveyor with my builder. They are using size and fact that it's not a cost detailed in the base price, but included there and you get not credit for if you choose to use a non-preferred company. For any 'major' builder they are effectively negotiating a sweet deal with a surveyor that will have their best interest and not the buyers interested, and getting away with it. I'm not sure how this isn't a ACCC/VBA industry crack down. It does allow the industry of surveyors to double dip at the expense of buyers, and I'm sure those getting that benefit don't want to rock that boat. Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 16Nov 30, 2017 8:32 am pEast bank There was nothing like that in our contract. They shouldn't receive any additional time to read the report or rectify defects. They should be building the house to a reasonable standard in the first place. They're in a round a bout way saying if we have to fix your house up to meet the standards we'll need another 8 weeks! Seems ridiculous to me. It doesn't take a supervisor 2 weeks to read a report and any action required should be on their time. it takes time because - example your inspector completed the inspection at 1630 - prepared the report for frame stage and sends it to the SS and you the next day - The Framers have already started at another location - So the SS will need time to arrange for them to come and fix the problems- Yes but it should be their time because they didn't do it properly in the first place. Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 17Nov 30, 2017 8:39 am bank pEast bank There was nothing like that in our contract. They shouldn't receive any additional time to read the report or rectify defects. They should be building the house to a reasonable standard in the first place. They're in a round a bout way saying if we have to fix your house up to meet the standards we'll need another 8 weeks! Seems ridiculous to me. It doesn't take a supervisor 2 weeks to read a report and any action required should be on their time. it takes time because - example your inspector completed the inspection at 1630 - prepared the report for frame stage and sends it to the SS and you the next day - The Framers have already started at another location - So the SS will need time to arrange for them to come and fix the problems- Yes but it should be their time because they didn't do it properly in the first place. unfortunately - that is not the way the process works - when u signed a contract with the builder - u signed a document stating u agree with surveyor your Builder gave u - if the surveyor has passed the frame stage - then the works pointed out by your independent inspector is extra work they are doing for you - U cannot even do much if they decided to continue to the build once it is passed by the surveyor because technically that is all that I needed - you can keep the photos of your private inspector has proof only if defects arise - See if your builder if allow you to appoint your own surveyor ? not happening - it is a bit murky out there - imagine the people who don't employ a private inspector and many many don't follow my build Arden homes Votivo 37 iin south east: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=88622 Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 19Nov 30, 2017 8:52 am I don't dispute that it will take time for the builder to come and fix issues, esp. if they have to organise their subcontractors to return. But if they are arguing that I don't need my own inspector, by that logic their own inspectors should be ensuring that any work is to the requisite standard. If my inspector then picks up something that their inspector missed it should not be my problem and at my penalty Re: Clause in contract about independent inspections 20Nov 30, 2017 8:53 am Althom They want 2 weeks extra for each report??? Are they saying they believe their work is so bad that there'll be two weeks rework each time your inspector comes in? In Victoria - we have a short fall of tradies - especially framers and brick layers - a shortage so much that u may wait more than 1 month before framers turn up follow my build Arden homes Votivo 37 iin south east: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=88622 Unless there is something in special conditions the builder does not have to give you timeline. 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