Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 2Feb 12, 2017 12:14 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 3Feb 13, 2017 7:52 am Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 12Feb 14, 2017 1:43 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 13Feb 14, 2017 1:50 pm judder I spoke to the council, they seem weak, the fella who picked up the call as umming and ahhing and it was like "oh the 500mm clearance of boundaries is not set in stone etc"...wtf? If you take up an issue with anyone, you have to know your facts, you cannot assume that someone on the other end of the phone knows the facts. It is also far better to speak face to face rather than over the phone. The Victorian Consolidated Regulations for side and rear setbacks are linked below. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/ ... /s414.html The link below mentions bulging tanks. Note that not all Australian manufactured tanks are certified to the new code, there is a misconception amongst the public that they all are but it is not a requirement. http://www.rainwatertanksdirect.com.au/slimline-rainwater-tanks/ "Poly slimline rainwater tanks have in the past had mixed results and have suffered from bulging and splitting problems. This problem has been addressed by many of the manufactures but there are still some cheap imported slimline tanks being sold in Australia that suffer from engineering issues." 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 14Feb 14, 2017 2:10 pm SaveH2O judder I spoke to the council, they seem weak, the fella who picked up the call as umming and ahhing and it was like "oh the 500mm clearance of boundaries is not set in stone etc"...wtf? If you take up an issue with anyone, you have to know your facts, you cannot assume that someone on the other end of the phone knows the facts. It is also far better to speak face to face rather than over the phone. The Victorian Consolidated Regulations for side and rear setbacks are linked below. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/ ... /s414.html Yes agreed. I was specifically referring to that legislation, but the person on the phone seriously sounded or made it sound as if it is not really enforced. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 15Feb 14, 2017 2:29 pm The set back requirement is enforced on all new homes and they would constitute the vast majority of cases. Many other councils also stipulate those regulations on their websites. I would have made him aware of those indisputable facts to rebuff his learned 'opinion' and asked him why the council is not proactive in legislative enforcement when legislature has clearly been broached and you have concerns about possible property damage with the tank being so close to your garage wall. I would always put such queries in writing and ask for a written response. Of interest, in Victoria, alterations to the roof and stormwater plumbing must be undertaken by a registered and appropriately qualified plumber. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 16Feb 14, 2017 2:34 pm SaveH2O The set back requirement is enforced on all new homes and they would constitute the vast majority of cases. Many other councils also stipulate those regulations on their websites. I would have made him aware of those indisputable facts to rebuff his learned 'opinion' and asked him why the council is not proactive in legislative enforcement when legislature has clearly been broached and you have concerns about possible property damage with the tank being so close to your garage wall. I would always put such queries in writing and ask for a written response. Of interest, in Victoria, alterations to the roof and stormwater plumbing must be undertaken by a registered and appropriately qualified plumber. Thanks. Just curious, how did you find out it was for new homes? Does it matter if mine is new and his is old? Sorry, I'm not really law minded. When I questioned him on the plumbing, he shot back, saying is was done by a qualified plumber. Honestly I don't know much about plumbing but doe those PVC pipe locations look right unsupported? I'll be upfront honest, call me paranoid but I have a suspicion he might want to put it on my side and not abutting his own house because my neighbour has the same fears as me and he doesn't want to damage his house. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 17Feb 14, 2017 3:14 pm A uPVC stormwater pipe is recommended to be supported every 2 metres from memory but that should not really concern you because it is on his property. The set back legislature is current, that is why new houses must be compliant with it.The neighbour's tank install is new, the age of his house doesn't matter. Your fears about weight are not really founded because the tank's base (not including the base it sits on) has a big footprint and the weight is spread out. If your site was cut and the tank was on the boundary, then you would have some cause for concern due to the tank's zone of influence. It also looks like only one downpipe is diverted to the 3,000 litre tank. The opening post's now deleted photo didn't show a pump connected to the outlets although there may be outlets at the other end...but I still didn't see a power cord coming from the house either. I also couldn't see where there was any plumbing going to the house for a toilet and/or a laundry connection. The system is poorly thought out and it will be collecting minimal rainwater. If it is to be used only for car washing and/or the garden etc, it will probably be near empty for most of the year because 95% of Melbourne's 'rain' periods are either drizzle or light showers and nearly 40% of days with precipitation are falls of 2mm or less. Evaporation rates are high, an annual yield of more than 80-85% is exceptional. Unless the tank's water is never used, the tank will rarely be full. If I was you, I wouldn't be concerned about it provided it was 60-80mm away from the wall. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 18Feb 14, 2017 3:39 pm Hmm thanks for the responses, but I'm not sure of what to do now. I'm kind of confused, the responses seem mixed saying some of my concerns are unfounded? I don't want to make it an overall huge issue but then I don't want to fork out for massive repairs down the track if something does go wrong? Flooding etc. and insurance won't cover it. Going to council and getting them involved - don't want to live next to a really upset neighbour - he's a bit big and burly...and finding out council doesn't really have much they can make him address. I'm also very confused about the "legislation" of the 500mm clearance, it's black and white, I think? But then some posts here are saying it's not really a concern and some say that a minimum of 50-60mm is suffice? Thanks for clarifying. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 19Feb 14, 2017 4:04 pm judder I'm also very confused about the "legislation" of the 500mm clearance, it's black and white, I think? But then some posts here are saying it's not really a concern and some say that a minimum of 50-60mm is suffice? I have only suggested a 50-80mm gap as a compromise to him to avoid things escalating. The legislation states a 500mm set back and is confirmed on many council and other websites. The chance of your neighbour's tank bulging are possible but not probable but he is asking you to accept that albeit small risk and if you don't want to, then you don't have to. He had no legal right to site the tank there. You might be interested to read the Jan 26th 2.18 pm AEST Whirlpool forums post in the link below. Fortunately for that poster, it was a metal water tank and it 'sprung' and emptied...a seamless poly tank will usually remain intact. https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1782428 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Neighbour installed water tank right next to my garage w 20Feb 14, 2017 4:06 pm Thanks. Could you clarify this bit as well? "If your site was cut and the tank was on the boundary, then you would have some cause for concern due to the tank's zone of influence." When we rebuild, the land was cut and filled. Do you mean this or do you mean if my land was lower than his?? 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