Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Building Contract 2Aug 01, 2016 5:29 pm Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Contract 4Aug 01, 2016 8:05 pm AJB His email includes this sentence - "Once we sign items can cost $1,000 plus 40% mark-up to change things". Can someone explain this too me? I don't plan on changing anything but if I wanted to change the colour of the carpet does this mean it costs me a minimum of $1400? Say you want to add an extra bank of drawers in your kitchen, this may cost you $250 to do at the selections appt prior to signing of the contract. If you want to do this after signing the contract though, they will likely charge you $1000 + 1.4*$250 = $1350. Say you want to also make another change to something else at the same time which normally costs $250, they may very well charge you that $1000 fee twice (ie. 2*($1000 + 1.4*$250) = $2700. As said above, most project builders will charge a steep fee like this. Whilst it is easy to say it's money for jam, if people keep making changes post-contract it increases the likelihood for the trades to be working to the wrong plans and re-work being required to fix mistakes. Building the Cordova One with McDonald Jones at Calderwood Valley, NSW: http://calderwoodvalley.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Building Contract 5Aug 01, 2016 8:17 pm Thank you Stuart. You have made it very clear. It makes sense that builders want to avoid changes after contracts. Re: Building Contract 6Aug 01, 2016 9:40 pm Very few people have their contract reviewed by a competent person who knows what to look for but there have been plenty of people complaining on Homeone about something not being done the way they expected and a variation applying if they want it changed. What you see in a display home isn't what you always get, nothing should be assumed. There have also been numerous posts on Homeone about accounting mistakes discovered when contracts have been checked and the mistakes are invariably to the builder's advantage. Mistakes in excess of $20,000 have been posted and gross overpricing and being charged twice for items also discovered. A quick forum search found a number of posts, the one below is interesting. viewtopic.php?f=31&p=1159231#p1159231 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Building Contract 7Aug 01, 2016 10:41 pm The prices are high mainly as a deterrent. If changes could be made post contract at standard costs they risk people would be doing so constantly. Bottom line is make sure you are 100% comfortable with everything before you sign the contract. If there is anything you are uncertain about then resolve it prior to signing. If you do change your mind about something then consider whether this can be done post hand over. Re: Building Contract 8Aug 02, 2016 8:46 am arcachon Bottom line is make sure you are 100% comfortable with everything before you sign the contract. If there is anything you are uncertain about then resolve it prior to signing. The only way you can make sure you are 100% comfortable is to take your time and take control yourself...without the pushy salesman using high pressure sales techniques like 1. Sign X, the price is about to go up 2. ..LOL here's a sweetener if you sign now 3. It's not done that way anymore! ..builders want you hand over money first then make a couple of changes right then when you now sign contracts arcachon If you do change your mind about something then consider whether this can be done post hand over. LOL pull out a kitchen? How about, site works, engineering and piles? LOL they don't charge you admin there..LOL they don't have too.. you just get ripped..read the posts on H1 Bottom line there are plenty of builders that don't rip off clients ...seek the out first and know what you are getting Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Contract 9Aug 02, 2016 8:49 am SaveH2O Very few people have their contract reviewed by a competent person who knows what to look for but there have been plenty of people complaining on Homeone about something not being done the way they expected and a variation applying if they want it changed. What you see in a display home isn't what you always get, nothing should be assumed. There have also been numerous posts on Homeone about accounting mistakes discovered when contracts have been checked and the mistakes are invariably to the builder's advantage. Mistakes in excess of $20,000 have been posted and gross overpricing and being charged twice for items also discovered. A quick forum search found a number of posts, the one below is interesting. viewtopic.php?f=31&p=1159231#p1159231 Couldn't agree more Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Building Contract 10Aug 02, 2016 8:59 am Stuart05 .... Whilst it is easy to say it's money for jam, Every salesman Modus operandi Cheap base price, expensive upgrade options and rip you off on repairs ..better still don't go down that path... Clients need to make informed decisions before hand ... get the gist Stuart05 if people keep making changes post-contract it increases the likelihood for the trades to be working to the wrong plans and re-work being required to fix mistakes. What..how does that become the clients fault and why shift the blame onto them with increased costs? That's non sense all drawing 2D & 3D are linked in with Building Information Modelling (BIM) so there is no excuse for uncoordinated drawing, details, information, accessibility. The internet, forums and apps give clients/trades instant accessibility to information and data, problem solved! Builders use BIM for 3D modelling and sales presentation only...Question so why don't they use it for engineering and site checking instead clients are treated like mushrooms..kept in the dark and fed cow manure Better still why aren't clients demanding it to check their builds.. this would solve a whole heap of problems? Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs You talk about deletions, are they variations or PS and PC adjustments? pleas list them 1 16455 I've decided, after a period of confusion (my building broker told me it's probably not worth it to use a lawyer, but others have said it is a must) that I definitely will… 7 27906 |