Browse Forums General Discussion 1 Jan 26, 2009 12:35 am I need help please!
I have just purchased a 10ft billiards table, approx weight 700-800kgs. This is yet to be delivered. This is to go on my 2nd floor lounge room. I did not think weight would be a problem, but after talking to friends they have questioned how much weigh the 2nd floor can actually hold. They have started puting doubts in my mind....can someone with building experience give me some professional advice!? pleease! Thanks Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 2Jan 26, 2009 1:30 am I'm no structural engineer, but would you be worried about load capacity of your 2nd floor if there were 7 or 8 large men standing in the loungeroom? Probably not. And they would be moving around, shifting the forces, whereas the table is stationary and only driving force downward. Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 3Jan 26, 2009 3:15 am Hoffies I'm no structural engineer, but would you be worried about load capacity of your 2nd floor if there were 7 or 8 large men standing in the loungeroom? Probably not. And they would be moving around, shifting the forces, whereas the table is stationary and only driving force downward. Ah but if you had 7 or 8 large men standing around a 700-800kg pool table (which is more likely ) then would there be a problem? There are plenty of people who do have pool tables upstairs (a couple of my friends do) - but the only way to truly tell for your house is to get an engineer to look at it. After 2 false starts, a year living overseas, two more world trips and 3 years of uncertainty we are now starting the build process again - hopefully for real this time! Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 4Jan 26, 2009 5:04 am From what I can gather from Australian Standard 1684, a residential floor must be able to handle a load of 1.5 kPa. That's approximately 150kg/m2. Now your billiard table is 3 x 1.5 m, which is 4.5 m2. If the billiard tables weight is 750 kg then this equates to 166.67 kg/m2. So it looks marginal at best.
This is just to give you a feel for what might be possible. You should get the real answer from a structural engineer. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 5Jan 26, 2009 7:52 am Casa2 From what I can gather from Australian Standard 1684, a residential floor must be able to handle a load of 1.5 kPa. That's approximately 150kg/m2. Now your billiard table is 3 x 1.5 m, which is 4.5 m2. If the billiard tables weight is 750 kg then this equates to 166.67 kg/m2. So it looks marginal at best. This is just to give you a feel for what might be possible. You should get the real answer from a structural engineer. So you are saying that the billiard table is OK - but nobody is allowed to play. I would have thought some floor reinforecement to spread the load using say yellow tongue would suffice. Engineering would use a safety factor of 2, I think. But it probably doesn't matter - he hasn't got the table up the stairs yet. Ed Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 6Jan 26, 2009 8:54 am Others can be in the room, as long as they don't exceed the maximum number of people per square metre with some more people standing on the table. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 7Jan 26, 2009 9:18 am Another way of looking at it is a 6x4 m room, based on 150 kg per m2, can withstand 48 75 kg people. The billard table at 750 kg means you can have 10 less people in the room. Even less if there is other signifiant furniture in the room.
If it was me, I think I'd plan on it being OK, but get a check done by a structural engineer before proceeding Of course the bigger problem is how do you get a 750 kg table upstairs. Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 8Jan 26, 2009 10:20 am Casa2 From what I can gather from Australian Standard 1684, a residential floor must be able to handle a load of 1.5 kPa. That's approximately 150kg/m2. This doesn't seem right to me. Two very fat people engaging in romantic activities would exceed that limit. But I haven't read of any fat amorous couple falling through the ceiling lately. And such a story would be sure to get a good run in the media. Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 9Jan 26, 2009 10:23 am Cabinfever Casa2 From what I can gather from Australian Standard 1684, a residential floor must be able to handle a load of 1.5 kPa. That's approximately 150kg/m2. This doesn't seem right to me. Two very fat people engaging in romantic activities would exceed that limit. But I haven't read of any fat amorous couple falling through the ceiling lately. And such a story would be sure to get a good run in the media. But that would only be the case if they were both standing up together... Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 10Jan 26, 2009 10:54 am EcoClassic Cabinfever Casa2 From what I can gather from Australian Standard 1684, a residential floor must be able to handle a load of 1.5 kPa. That's approximately 150kg/m2. This doesn't seem right to me. Two very fat people engaging in romantic activities would exceed that limit. But I haven't read of any fat amorous couple falling through the ceiling lately. And such a story would be sure to get a good run in the media. But that would only be the case if they were both standing up together... Actually you would need 18 fat couples all standing up and going for it before they would exceed the rating (a lot more to break through the ceiling) for a 4 x 6 room. Now that would make news! Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 11Jan 26, 2009 10:57 am I'm having a double storey house built and there is a note on each of the plans specifying that billiard tables and waterbeds cannot be used on the 2nd floor. I'm assuming that this varies according to each different plan and builder. Have a quick look through your plans to see if there is anything on there. Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 12Jan 26, 2009 11:04 pm Thank you all for the advice. I did contact my builder before going ahead, but obviously they will say yes its fine. And the billiard shop that is deliverying it upstairs didnt seems to have a problem with it either.
I figured its just like 6-7 built footy players (115kgs each) standing in an area of 3m x 1.5 m permanently and evenly on all corners distributing the weight evenly. From different websites i have looked up it seems to be fine. I think there will be shifting of the wood downwards over time but nothing too major. Its more for my leisure so i wont have anymore than 3 friends over so hopefully it will go well.....i will check my plan now actually. thanks for all the help again Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 13Jan 26, 2009 11:47 pm hills Thank you all for the advice. I did contact my builder before going ahead, but obviously they will say yes its fine. And the billiard shop that is deliverying it upstairs didnt seems to have a problem with it either. So the room didn't have any support walls underneath? i.e. it is completely over another room? Re: HELP! How much weigh can my 2nd floor hold? 14Jan 27, 2009 8:57 am joeygbh hills Thank you all for the advice. I did contact my builder before going ahead, but obviously they will say yes its fine. And the billiard shop that is deliverying it upstairs didnt seems to have a problem with it either. So the room didn't have any support walls underneath? i.e. it is completely over another room? MOst llikely they will be posi trusses anyway. so ver few load bearing walls unuderneath anyway. What you need are the calaculations for the posi truss that had been designed for your house. That would tell you what it had been design to. yes it does, you've just not understood it. theres a difference. 4 6202 Regardless of the trees route undermining your footings and slab or not. Trees need to be away from the buildings as per the BCA requirements below otherwise the design… 1 869 They make the room much easier to clean for one, reflect more light (if light colour tiles are used), and you dont end up with dust on the top edge of tiles (cause most… 3 10244 |