Browse Forums Eco Living Re: Tank - 3rd try 4Apr 05, 2016 2:39 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 7Apr 06, 2016 2:11 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 8Apr 06, 2016 2:53 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 10Apr 07, 2016 3:08 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 13Apr 25, 2016 10:58 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 15Apr 26, 2016 10:07 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 16Apr 26, 2016 1:41 pm once again your comments and the time spent are greatly appreciated. I hope the final installation makes it all worthwhile. Quote: Looking at it, I would use a nyglass 90 degree elbow and a straight run of hose but I say that without the benefit of being on site. I'll see if I can get one locally on a trip to town, as it'd be uneconomical as a one off online buy with added freight costs. I had put the 45º elbows in as I'd believed this was part of the design philosophy, and thought I'd seen in mentioned in more than one article as a means of reducing turbulence. A cursory search found one thread where it was discussed, and have a vague memory of it being mentioned when taking off from a system with a full vertical riser. There are only 2 x 90 degree elbows elsewhere on the horizontal flow path. The vertical pipes down from the Supadivertas have 45º elbows, and the Tee on the horizontal path is twisted to "meet and match" that angle, eliminating the need for a 2nd 45º elbow. Quote: Note that the term “low restriction inlet” references the smaller pipe’s flow path. You need to use 45 degree elbows rather than 90 degree elbows to reduce turbulence and Pondflex UV stabilised hose or similar should be used as a reasonable length of flexible coupling. Quote: I hope that the manufacturer doesn't supply tanks to their customers with the pump outlet fitted as low as yours, I did find the manufacturer to have an excellent Customer Order form that allows detailed specifications to be provided. They also require you to re-confirm prior to production. This appears just to have been one that slipped through. - to avoid naming names I've sent the form as an attachment to your commercial email - [quoteI can't quite follow the rest of the explanation in your previous post but yes, pipes do need to be supported.][/quote] there's a pic on the final post of an earlier thread that gives an idea of the layout. I think since then I add one or 2 star pickets near the Tee junction. i now have a fair amount of offcuts of timber and steel to eventually create a solid structure along the horizontal feed, and that location will also enable far easier access to a sediment trap valve(s) on each pipe. http://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=72079 Re: Tank - 3rd try 17Apr 26, 2016 2:26 pm tezzab I had put the 45º elbows in as I'd believed this was part of the design philosophy, and thought I'd seen in mentioned in more than one article as a means of reducing turbulence. Yes, it is and you are correct. A 40mm 45 degree elbow will save about 0.7 metres of equivelent pipe length in friction loss as opposed to using a 90 degree 40mm elbow but you have two 45 degree elbows plus additional fittings. To keep it neater and simpler, I would just use a 90 degree faucet elbow and a straight hose for your situation but if you are happy with the current connection, then just use that. What I want people to avoid doing is plumbing two 90 degree elbows, one at the outlet connected to a vertical pipe and another 90 degree elbow at the bottom of the pipe as this generates unnecessary friction loss and turbulence. It is much better to use one elbow at the valve and then connect a flexible hose to the horizontal pipe. If the pipe comes in from the side as yours does, using a threaded elbow is neater. You cannot buy a 45 degree threaded elbow as far as I know. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 18Apr 26, 2016 9:42 pm All good, now have a better understanding and will grab a 90º 50mm elbow, and convert down to 40mm on the vertical drop into the Pondflex. Quote: You cannot buy a 45 degree threaded elbow as far as I know. But you may make your own when you have your 3D Printer setup. Re: Tank - 3rd try 19Apr 26, 2016 10:23 pm You already have a 50mm x 40mm M M reducing nipple fitted to the inlet, you only need 40mm fittings. You have two best options. Because you can only buy 90 degree PVCu faucet elbows (female thread at one end only), you can use a 40mm faucet adapter to fit into a 40mm faucet elbow to provide a female thread at one end for the director. The easiest and neatest way is to use a nyglass F F elbow like the one I posted as this will connect to the reducing nipple and the director. If you already have a 40mm faucet adapter, then your easiest way is to use the faucet elbow + faucet adapter combination. If you are happy with what you already have, then go with that. I am only referring to aesthetics here. Do you have your own 3D printer? I have all of my prototyping done on 3D and have done for 10 years now. It's all done in nylon. 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Tank - 3rd try 20Apr 26, 2016 10:43 pm for simplicity I will get the F F elbow as you've suggested. It may work better once in place. Not sure regarding aesthetics when looking at the multitude of colours involved in all the fittings. a can of spray paint might improve those aesthetics. I don't have nor ever plan to have a 3D printer. Once all my current projects are done I intend to rationalise, consolidate and minimise my "tech" collection to a manageable level. 18 90480 From what I know about water tanks (I've been working with a client on them for a few years now) is this - The concrete can last a lifetime if they don't crack for some… 2 10629 Thanks for letting us know. The programmer will have a look at this later today. 2 6682 |