Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 2Apr 13, 2016 9:19 pm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Custom owner build in Hume - VIC - Tiling Stage http://goo.gl/qpPglB Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 7Apr 13, 2016 9:57 pm energy4anarchy Haji Congrats on the land. I don't know anyone in that area but how much spare time do you have that you can allocate to the build? We are doing owner builder and for $12k a square have pretty much got everything we want off the top shelf. A builder would have charged us $15k as it's a custom build. Maybe ask yourself if your time and stress caused by the build justifies the $3k a square you would be saving? In my case it was a yes as I work from home and could manage my work around the build. Hi Haji Absolutly yes... Saving $3k a square could be $150k for us and I'd love to see that money go to landscaping When you say owner builder, are your organising the ENTIRE build or just some parts?? I'm intrigued and want to learn this side of things, like you I work from time and absolutly are prepared to be hands on as I have the time Other than drawing the plans, yes, the entire build. I have a few friends who are tradies of various types so that helped a lot as well. Check out my build if you need more info. We're 2-3 weeks away from moving in. $150k is an excellent saving, most people's full time wages x 2. If you're willing to do the research, I would say go ahead and you will enjoy the process. It was and is rewarding for me although stressful at times which is usual. Note that not everything will go to plan and there will be times where you wish you had some knowledge about an issue that will arise. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Custom owner build in Hume - VIC - Tiling Stage http://goo.gl/qpPglB Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 8Apr 14, 2016 9:55 am energy4anarchy Absolutly yes... Saving $3k a square could be $150k for us Really? That's a 50 square house, which is 465 sqm! That's over double the size of the average new build in Australia, which is already the largest in the world. You certainly do have champagne tastes. The house will obviously cost more to build. But it would also cost more to heat & cool, adding to your bills. Also more to maintain, & take longer to clean. How many in your family, better be a small army! I don't believe anyone needs such a huge house. Sounds like keeping up with the Joneses to me. Even if you choose a well orientated energy efficient design (passive solar), & choose energy saving devices (like reverse cycle AC for heating, & solar PV), the embodied energy - the energy used to produce all the materials for your build - will be huge. Which has a huge negative impact on the environment. http://www.yourhome.gov.au/materials/embodied-energy "energy4anarchy" sounds about right. I suggest you greatly reduce the size of your house, which will be good for your budget, & better for the environment. As for the block, what is the degree of the slope? This will greatly effect the cost, & also the design. Whether a split level slab is chosen, or whether you build with post & beams. There are some builders that specialize with designs for sloping blocks. Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 9Apr 15, 2016 12:00 am There is a third option more suited to you I believe, get a project manager who will organize quotes trades work etc, your basically owner builder with a experienced builder directing you, also he will get better prices and know the better trades, you can also help out by doing some jobs like site clean, final clean, labour jobs, much better way if not in building industry and will save almost as much. Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 10Apr 15, 2016 12:01 am There is a third option more suited to you I believe, get a project manager who will organize quotes trades work etc, your basically owner builder with a experienced builder directing you, also he will get better prices and know the better trades, you can also help out by doing some jobs like site clean, final clean, labour jobs, much better way if not in building industry and will save almost as much. Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 11Apr 15, 2016 9:54 am Well on difficult slopping blocks you want to make sure you have a good handle on the optimized alternate engineering solutions and their associated build costs otherwise the costs could easily blow out +25% Having A good designer/architect and Cr@? contractors means Bugger@!!l when you are confronted with with repair problems a few years later down the track costing +500% Do allocate those scarce funds frugally and avoid paying large commissions..if you get my gist Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 13Apr 15, 2016 8:24 pm I am going to owner build my house as well and it is a steep block in Melbourne as well. I think the first think you need to check with yourself your actual budget. Frankly speaking, you won't get even a rough idea of cost involved for your build since all sloping blocks are quite unique and there are many different ways to tackle it. You can have the same floor plan built with different materials and methods which can be doubled in cost. ie: split-level on slab, on stump or on pole can have big cost difference for a slope block. Do expect a cost of at least $12k per square for a house with standard inclusion. You can easily drives up your cost to $15k+ per square. I had some quotes before and all mainly around the $15k per square mark.. but that does NOT include site cost. With site cost, mine is well over $22k per square. So if you are looking to owner build, you better do some homework on what you can do first. You'll need time to do research and to find out how much you can save. Just going to a draftsman without knowing much about you block is not going to end up in a nice way. Good luck! Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 14Apr 16, 2016 7:59 am Thank you to all the replies here Appreciate it Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 15Apr 16, 2016 10:57 am Quote: This resulted in a few extras that were not spelled out on plans when quoting and also becomes a chain of blame between builder, draftie and engineer when something goes wrong. Also the level of detail some builders provide in their quotes is very vague unless you spell out every inclusion, so this can often lead to extra $$$. All the more reason radiuz why the owner or draftie should provide a comprehensive specification to all the people quoting so you can compare apples to apples on the final price. Stewie Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 16May 10, 2016 10:32 am I can give you some cost ideas for security installations. Data Cabling and Security Service - www.leact.com.au 0488 033 022 Data Cabling NBN MDF Jumper IT Network Alarm CCTV Access Control Intercom Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 17May 20, 2016 7:39 pm The problem you have is this Sloping blocks + custom build= high cost per m2 Forget smaller builders as they have bugger all buying power and when things go pear shaped have no depth to fix issues and have no reputation to uphold. Latitude 37 have been around for 10yrs now and have the custom experience even bigger builders can only dream off. Being a builder is more than just having once held a hammer. It's about the trades you hire and ensuring that they give a result that meets the industry standard and the home owners expectations. Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 18May 23, 2016 11:42 pm Project manager I had accurately gave options and costs for all site work, and often would actually do the jobs, I said I would prefer what he thought was best practices , but then we had to also consider price in whichgood trades gave much better pricing to project manager. Despite this I still learned so I knew what was going on and that helped keep stress levels down. Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 19May 24, 2016 2:55 pm Quote: Forget smaller builders as they have bugger all buying power and when things go pear shaped have no depth to fix issues and have no reputation to uphold. I don't agree with this statement at all. They might not have the buying power but smaller builders will be very hands on because their reputation is everything. You only have to read all the complaints on this forum regarding the bigger builders and the dogs breakfast that some of their jobs are. Stewie Re: Melbourne - South East - Rough Cost ideas of Custom Buil 20May 25, 2016 1:08 pm Got to back up stewie as I found smaller hands on builder comes out cheaper as your build becomes more custom, could give many examples of types of finishings that volume boys charge like a wounded bull for, ,for basics volume boys cheaper but has you want nice things then they go through the roof , ,and more importantly is they are not set up for high quality , top trades best structural practice., Keen to hear from people in the area who have got KDRB done on whom they got the build from? Looking for recommendations. Thanks 0 21119 Hi, can anyone recommend a custom home builder who can build in north east area? Looking to build a custom 4-br energy-efficient home with a max budget of 750k. If they… 0 23049 May I ask why you chose not to use GJ Gardiner? 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