Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 2Jul 28, 2015 10:00 pm 11/11/13- dep paid 4/4/14- settlement Feb '15- DA app 6/8/15- CC site works begin 19/8/15- Formwork 25/8/15- slab 3/9/15- elect. appt 13/10/15 - frame started 19/10- bricks started 31/10 - roof done Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 8Jul 29, 2015 5:39 am 11/11/13- dep paid 4/4/14- settlement Feb '15- DA app 6/8/15- CC site works begin 19/8/15- Formwork 25/8/15- slab 3/9/15- elect. appt 13/10/15 - frame started 19/10- bricks started 31/10 - roof done Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 10Feb 02, 2016 5:24 pm The most obvious one is can you move the physical location of your house where you plan to build? I'm surprised that you can use aluminium frames in these BAL wndows. I've installed numerous fire rated windows for houses, offices and factories around Perth (nothing bushfire related) and we have to use a steel frame and beading. Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 11Feb 02, 2016 6:28 pm Huggy_B The most obvious one is can you move the physical location of your house where you plan to build? I'm surprised that you can use aluminium frames in these BAL wndows. I've installed numerous fire rated windows for houses, offices and factories around Perth (nothing bushfire related) and we have to use a steel frame and beading. Hi Huggy, Brilliant as your idea may be unfortunately we cant. Our block has only a 12 metre width so we need every possible metre we can use Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 12Feb 02, 2016 7:39 pm zowiec We are building in Wollondilly and have initially come in as FZ but our neighbors are BAL 29 and theres only 12 metres width seperating our block and theirs, anyone have any tips on downgrading from FZ to bal 29 or 40 Did the same inspector do the rating for each block? If not, try paying for a new report from the org that did the neighbours block. Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 13Feb 02, 2016 7:49 pm Matt1 zowiec We are building in Wollondilly and have initially come in as FZ but our neighbors are BAL 29 and theres only 12 metres width seperating our block and theirs, anyone have any tips on downgrading from FZ to bal 29 or 40 Did the same inspector do the rating for each block? If not, try paying for a new report from the org that did the neighbours block. I am not sure how they got it passed through, we met with their builder and they said they could get the same BAL for us if we went with them(however their costs are WAY too high for our budget). The builders refuse to give us the details of who did their inspections and i have contacted our neighbours aswell who claim the builders have all the documents (which i think is suss) My next step is querying if the council can tell me who did the neighbours inspections Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 14Feb 02, 2016 8:28 pm If their went DA it might be in their papers. Otherwise you can just lookup BAL inspectors online and find someone yourself. It's very subjective. Our developer (our local council) classified our block as 40. I found an inspector who had already successfully re-classified some blocks in the estate lower. $300 later and our block was 29/19. Saved me heaps. A neighbour later did a "self-assessment" and called his block 12.5 not sure how he got that through but he did. Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 15Feb 02, 2016 8:33 pm You are totally right Matt its very subjective! Gonna see how I go with getting their inspectors info off council and if theres no luck I'll try another inspector. Fingers crossed Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 16Feb 03, 2016 5:38 am zowiec You are totally right Matt its very subjective! Gonna see how I go with getting their inspectors info off council and if theres no luck I'll try another inspector. Fingers crossed Our council has the BAL report for each DA on their website. The variation of BAL rating on very similar blocks confounds me. We are 40/29 ( originally FZ/40 until we moved the house by 1 metre). A house 6 doors up is 12.5 and a house 7 doors up in the other direction is 19. Council told us there was no such thing as a precedent in regards to BAL and we couldn't use this info to reduce our BAL. Go figure!! 11/11/13- dep paid 4/4/14- settlement Feb '15- DA app 6/8/15- CC site works begin 19/8/15- Formwork 25/8/15- slab 3/9/15- elect. appt 13/10/15 - frame started 19/10- bricks started 31/10 - roof done Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 17Feb 03, 2016 7:58 am Does anyone have any experience or suggestions on how best to fix ember screens to the outside of aluminium window frames. My ember screens consist of stainless steel mesh fitted inside an aluminium frame (similar in appearance to a fly screen) but need to be fitted to the outside to protect the glass. My window manufacturer has been unable to advise me. Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 18Feb 03, 2016 9:14 am Excellent thread. Very informative kylie40. Beetaloo maybe get some small channel and pop rivet it to the frame and set the screens into that. Stewie Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 19Feb 03, 2016 6:23 pm Betaloo, after the wrong screens came with frames last week, my BAL-29 ones are coming with the glazing tomorrow. Hooefulky I can enlighten you then. I was told they secure with clips. One of the insulation companies seems to have devised several roofing systems for various BAL including FZ levels to comply with AS3959.. https://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/getattachment/4cc15fab-0457-4339-9550-634311db6037/attachment.aspx Naturally their products feature heavily in these solutions. Not sure if there'd still be compliance if using other products though. Re: Info & tips for those building in BAL40 and Flame Zone 20Feb 04, 2016 5:54 pm Glazing arrived and installed today, and the right bushfire screens as well. These are fitted with 4 spring clips that are twisted outward to clip over the frame. The clips are screwed to their own frame with a small philips head. 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