Browse Forums General Discussion Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 4Oct 15, 2015 9:00 am My advice is for you to contact a local engineer Have him Visit the site & 1. Explain the code requirements 2. Pros and Cons for Various options available for retaining 3. Help you with an optimized cost efficient solution Sorry, I am in Perth and there is only so much one can do on Forums, Blogs and with old engineering technology Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 6Nov 26, 2015 6:50 pm Hi guys, I have an updated plan which includes drop edge beam to the porch and bed1. New Plan with North-East Elevation New Plan with North-West Elevation Battered fill in the front yard has been removed! including drop edge beam has resulted in more steps to the porch, and the battered fill is removed from the front yard. Just wanted to know - - How the new plan looking? - Isn't battered fill part of standard cut/fill in a sloping block? I'm not sure how the landscaping of front yard would look like. Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 7Nov 27, 2015 8:48 am Hi jahangir The stairs are orientated the wrong way? They should go up from the front which draws the visitor into the house. Make it a feature wide at the bottom narrowing at the top..get my gist Once the elevation is sorted out then you can address the DEB, footings retaining, etc BTW most drawings are now Modelled in 3D software ie Revit, Archicad, Vws,etc , so you can view the building from different angles, rotate, slice, measure, extract quantities, analyse, simulate future erosion (Multiphysics), etc. Clients don't have to own the software to view the Design & results, there are also free viewers, eg 3D pdf that you can use I generally send my Clients 2D & 3D models in PDF of the design and engineering details Ask you designer, engineer and builder about Building Information Modelling (BIM) If you arent given BIM you arent getting the FULL PICTURE (That is yet another problem- TOPIC) 3D PDF here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laL1dW2WRvA My engineering and Simulation BIM details Here https://plus.google.com/u/2/communities ... 2205285216 Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 8Nov 27, 2015 9:59 am StructuralBIMGuy Hi jahangir The stairs are orientated the wrong way? They should go up from the front which draws the visitor into the house. Make it a feature wide at the bottom narrowing at the top..get my gist Once the elevation is sorted out then you can address the DEB, footings retaining, etc BTW most drawings are now Modelled in 3D software ie Revit, Archicad, Vws,etc , so you can view the building from different angles, rotate, slice, measure, extract quantities, analyse, simulate future erosion (Multiphysics), etc. Clients don't have to own the software to view the Design & results, there are also free viewers, eg 3D pdf that you can use I generally send my Clients 2D & 3D models in PDF of the design and engineering details Ask you designer, engineer and builder about Building Information Modelling (BIM) If you arent given BIM you arent getting the FULL PICTURE (That is yet another problem- TOPIC) 3D PDF here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laL1dW2WRvA My engineering and Simulation BIM details Here https://plus.google.com/u/2/communities ... 2205285216 Hi StructuralBIMGuy, Thanks for the info. Regarding the stairs : I think they put it on the garage side as the garage is stepped down and you can easily walk to the stairs? What do you think about the included DEB in the porch and bed1. With that the house might look like - or So, I'm not sure how the landscaping would look like as there is a big steps from the porch to the front yard. Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 9Nov 27, 2015 10:22 am If you Study the steps properly the site plan doesn't match the elevation with the number of steps? Also the middle landing lines up with the wall? My point is if its done in 3D you can consider alternate options, views and they will be accurate! I always make stairs a major feature, its what brings you into the house and transcending levels. Sorry I don't do or comment on landscaping others may Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 10Nov 27, 2015 10:31 am Could someone explain what the following means? 1. battered fill? 2. Drop edge beam? is it vertical or horizontial beam? 3. contour lines? 22-0 , 22-2, 22-4, 22-6 what does this means? Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 11Nov 29, 2015 1:49 pm 1. Battered fill is usually fill that is placed to a slope from say the edge of your house up to where natural ground has been cut. Some councils have maximum slopes and may require a geotech report. 2. DEB is a vertical beam usually integrated into the main slab to cope with cut ground. Here is an example from Brian Ashworths excellent site... http://anewhouse.com.au/2013/07/drop-edge-beams/ 3. Contour lines on a survey are usually to AHD ( Australian Height datum ) and represent the height above sea level 22.0 = 22 metres, 22.4 = 22.4 metres etc. You can work out the slope of your land at a certain point by measuring the distance between two of these lines on your contour survey or site plan with a scale ruler and the height. Stewie Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 13Dec 06, 2015 11:30 am StructuralBIMGuy If you Study the steps properly the site plan doesn't match the elevation with the number of steps? Also the middle landing lines up with the wall? My point is if its done in 3D you can consider alternate options, views and they will be accurate! I always make stairs a major feature, its what brings you into the house and transcending levels. Sorry I don't do or comment on landscaping others may "If you Study the steps properly the site plan doesn't match the elevation with the number of steps? Also the middle landing lines up with the wall?" - Not sure what you mean here. Could you explain the two things a bit here? I asked the builder. They don't provide 3D drawing. Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 14Dec 08, 2015 8:27 am Jahangir StructuralBIMGuy If you Study the steps properly the site plan doesn't match the elevation with the number of steps? Also the middle landing lines up with the wall? My point is if its done in 3D you can consider alternate options, views and they will be accurate! I always make stairs a major feature, its what brings you into the house and transcending levels. Sorry I don't do or comment on landscaping others may "If you Study the steps properly the site plan doesn't match the elevation with the number of steps? Also the middle landing lines up with the wall?" - Not sure what you mean here. Could you explain the two things a bit here? I asked the builder. They don't provide 3D drawing. http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/struc ... sort=3&o=0 Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 15Dec 08, 2015 8:32 am StructuralBIMGuy Jahangir StructuralBIMGuy If you Study the steps properly the site plan doesn't match the elevation with the number of steps? Also the middle landing lines up with the wall? My point is if its done in 3D you can consider alternate options, views and they will be accurate! I always make stairs a major feature, its what brings you into the house and transcending levels. Sorry I don't do or comment on landscaping others may "If you Study the steps properly the site plan doesn't match the elevation with the number of steps? Also the middle landing lines up with the wall?" - Not sure what you mean here. Could you explain the two things a bit here? I asked the builder. They don't provide 3D drawing. http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/struc ... sort=3&o=0 Thanks a lot StructuralBIMGuy. Where it says in the site plan that it's 3 steps? Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 16Dec 08, 2015 8:45 am Jahangir Thanks a lot StructuralBIMGuy. Where it says in the site plan that it's 3 steps? http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/struc ... sort=3&o=0 Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 17Dec 08, 2015 8:59 am StructuralBIMGuy Jahangir Thanks a lot StructuralBIMGuy. Where it says in the site plan that it's 3 steps? http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/struc ... sort=3&o=0 Thanks again. Really appreciate your effort Re: Drop edge beam - need help with the plan 18Dec 08, 2015 9:18 am Jahangir StructuralBIMGuy Jahangir Thanks a lot StructuralBIMGuy. Where it says in the site plan that it's 3 steps? http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/struc ... sort=3&o=0 Thanks again. Really appreciate your effort No Problems..you really must insist on your drawings and documentations being correctly coordinated and your Designer/Engineer/Builder also must explain these options , processes, benefits, cost implications, etc,etc so you are able to understand them and make informed decisions Designer,Engineer (Civil,Const & Envir),Builder,Concrete & Masonry Contract.Struct Repairs Hello everyone, After some suggestions and ideas about how to put a concrete path around the drop edge beam area on our new build. We are required to have a concrete path… 0 12873 The distance between my DEBs varies from 4.1m at the narrowest to 8.1m at the widest. 5 27310 I would like to build our new house with the rear section approx 1 metre out of the ground, I don't particularly like to go bearers and joists so concrete slab all the way… 0 3822 |