Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 42Dec 30, 2008 7:58 am Visit my blog: http://www.jeanetez.blogspot.com/ Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 45Dec 30, 2008 10:45 am Do the hard jobs first. The easy jobs will take care of themselves. - Dale Carnegie Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 47Dec 30, 2008 11:02 am Visit my blog: http://www.jeanetez.blogspot.com/ Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 48Dec 31, 2008 10:22 am Bloody hell.....I would have hated to be the fencing contractor trying to build that fence!.
As regards the boundary issue.... The fencing contractor usually gives a "price/metre" and asks "where do you want it" to the person paying the bill and also "what side do you want the palings" He takes a line of site then digs 300mm X 600mm holes and puts in a 100mmX75mm post. Most modern fences don't have the rail notched into the post. They are usually just tek screwed to the post so the fence is actually 100mm + 75mm +20mm thick. i.e. 195mm wide. I agree it's not exactly on the boundary but considering the alternatives I think it's best you try to live with it and don't get all bitter and twisted. (hard sometimes) You do have a free fence but you have been hard done by in the consultation process (none at all). It appears that the neighbour/builder has jumped in first and got the best result for their pool problem. They also require the "good side" of the fence to be on your side so that it complies with pool fencing laws ( climbable rails to be 1000mm apart) so they have kept you out of the discussion process and have paid for 100% of the cost as a result. I'm sure you want the safest fence possible to keep your children out of the neighbours backyard. The biggest problem seems to be the "ugliness" factor of trying to contour the fence of the boulders. Maybe the the more artsistic people here can give you a better solution but i try removing the diagonal palings (it attracts the eye too much) and just go verticals. Also try to get some long lengths of palings and replace the jointed ones. The other solution is to take advantage of the money saved by not paying for the fence and clad it with maybe blueboard and render or paint it. When you get some landscaping in place that will also soften it up. It's not nice when you are unhappy with a job but sometimes trying to fix it just makes matters worse. Happy New Year Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 49Jan 01, 2009 7:52 am I totally get that it's not worth getting bitter and twisted over it. If you can't change something you accept it and move on. I guess I'm not convinced yet that I should, or have to, live with the latest development.
I am also still completely astounded by the attitudes I have encountered in this situation. 1. The "we got in first, so take that" attitude makes no sense. Both sides have to live with a fence for a very long time and ought to have a say in it. Just because one side is willing to bear the whole expense doesn't mean they should impose their will without consultation. In this case the neighbours are only 2-3 months ahead of me in terms of completion. It's not like there was a vacant block next door with no development in sight. 2. It's quite clear that they had every intention of charging me for my share despite the lack of consultation and disregard for the Fencing Act. 3. Before the requested meeting about the boundary could take place, the fencers came back and completed the unfinished fence. How much more arrogant can you get? 4. I made polite enquiries about the pool fence and got no answers. Then out of the blue they throw up this structure! I see nothing but selfishness, incompetence, arrogance, and a hideous great wall. Visit my blog: http://www.jeanetez.blogspot.com/ Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 50Jan 01, 2009 8:11 am I haven't read every post since it's getting quite long. This is what I would do:
1) Accept the fence as is (in my mind). It may be over into your property a bit, but this does not affect the value of your land since it's size is determined by the boundaries not the fence. 2) Ignore any request to pay. 3) If the neigbour pushes for payment, then say "OK, let's go out and pick a fence together and place it exactly on the boundary. And we'll spit costs 50/50." Demolition August 2009, Construction Started September 2009, Completed December 2010 Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 51Jan 01, 2009 9:31 am It might be a good time to say thank you to everyone for your invaluable suggestions and moral support.
I have accepted that there's not much I can do about the boundary fence, but I hope that discussion was/will be helpful to others who find themselves in a similar position. My remaining concern is the height and ugliness of the pool barrier (see pictures in Dec 30 post), and I would welcome any further comments about that. Visit my blog: http://www.jeanetez.blogspot.com/ Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 52Jan 01, 2009 10:25 am If you're doomed to live with the ugly and ultra-high fence, then all you can reasonably do is to make it less ugly somehow.
Perhaps you can clad your side with some other material - there are lots of options if you look around hardware stores and landscaping suppliers. Lazydays already suggested blueboard/render, but there's brushwood screening or hardwood decking-style screens, plus many other choices. Normally I'd suggest planting something to hide it, but I'm not sure what you can grow in that rock pile that would provide an adequate screen. Maybe a climbing plant though? If you're stumped, it would be worth consulting a landscaping expert for some advice. hideous 53Jan 01, 2009 10:42 am Oh dear. How about some Natureed over it? I think it will improve it .(anything will don't you think?). If you can plant at the base (can't quite see) you could try Chinese Star Jasmine. If not, may be you could squeeze a nice pot in there, to take you eye away from the rest. (in conjunction with the Natureed will look nice) If you wanted to have some little succulents hanging down to soften the rock face, you may be able to fill a few cavities with succulent mix and poke a few in there randomly. You will be suprised at how well they grow. Just a few suggestions. Sorry you are in such a horrible situation. Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 54Jan 06, 2009 9:22 am I would be looking at the possible effects of storms on the "ugly" timber fence adjacent to the boulder wall. Doesnt look very stable to me (granted - based on limited information from the photo).
There must be council or state govt requirements re structural integrity of boundary fence or pool fencing. Does this timber extension comply? Sorry I have no time today to research this aspect but it may be somethig you may want to look into (or have already?) Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 56Jan 06, 2009 11:24 am The main issue that I think you can "win" on is the height - surely this would require planning approval from the council? First call would be to your council to discuss what does and doesn't require planning approval... I guess God didn't use subbies... Contact The neighbours 57Jan 07, 2009 9:41 pm Have you contacted the neighbours, now that it look likes they have moved in. Try to sort it out as adults and not in court or councils. The last thing you want to do is get off on the wrong side of your neighbours. Re: Contact The neighbours 58Jan 11, 2009 10:08 pm Nice One Have you contacted the neighbours, now that it look likes they have moved in. Try to sort it out as adults and not in court or councils. The last thing you want to do is get off on the wrong side of your neighbours. Only 1 post. You are not the neighbour by any chance are you? Re: Fence arrogance - can you believe this one? 59Jan 12, 2009 8:36 am No I am not, just think that this post has gone on for to long, and like most things we are only getting one side. We had a dispute similar to this years ago before forums and the internet, and we sorted it out over a coffee. Just a suggestion thats all.. Hey everyone Not for me or anyone I know, just generally interested. For a single allotment house, are you allowed to take the fence on both sides of your house and… 0 20923 2 11005 I've just had a look at the website. The company are just building broker's. There are plenty of similar companies that basically draw your plans (they own them so you… 8 10973 |