Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Vic govt changes rules on water tanks 14Jun 30, 2007 6:32 pm norbs Oh and for all those opposed to damns on the premise that you need the rain to fill them, well the same applies to water tanks But not to desalination.... Re: Vic govt changes rules on water tanks 15Jul 01, 2007 12:59 pm Disagree Matt-
Short term view to the problem. (But hey we expect that from some people) The issue is people are using more water than the country can deliver. So desal can help. But without major reform to peoples thinking and habits and expectations - people will continue to think everything is fine. Just build another desal plant, then another and another etc Have a look at the issues the LA viaduct has. Desal is an option - but we can't just continue to think we can use as much water as we like becasue we can make more water!!! What do we do when port philip bay trends towards being another dead sea? Steve Re: Vic govt changes rules on water tanks 16Jul 01, 2007 1:32 pm Yak_Chat What do we do when port philip bay trends towards being another dead sea? Steve Desalinate it and build another one!! Re: Vic govt changes rules on water tanks 17Jul 02, 2007 9:42 am Yak_Chat But without major reform to peoples thinking and habits and expectations - people will continue to think everything is fine. Just build another desal plant, then another and another etc Have a look at the issues the LA viaduct has. Desal is an option - but we can't just continue to think we can use as much water as we like becasue we can make more water!!! What do we do when port philip bay trends towards being another dead sea? Steve First off, I was under the impression the this is not going to be build on Port Philip bay but rather the open sea. So your dead sea arguement is dead. The idea that we should restrict our water use is absurd. We should instead be increasing our storage of it. More dams is the cheapest and most effective way to achieve this. Desal is another albeit slightly more expensive option. Lets consider this: We need to cut our water use so; lets stop watering sporting venues. lets ban alcohol as it uses too much water to produce. lets limit house size to stop water wasteage in construction. lets ban computers, plasmas, cars and other consumer goods that use lots of water to make. lets ban meat, dairy, chicken and overseas food. lets ban fruit as fruit trees are inefficient at using water. lets remove all public parks and they have trees that suck the water out of the ground. Starts to sound a bit silly but so is; lets ban watering gardens. lets ban long showers. lets not flush our toilets. Last week, half a million litres of water flowed into the Thompson dam EVERY SECOND!!! There is plenty of water but huge amounts are wasted by industry, by power plants and by farmers, yes farmers they are capable of being bad too. Ever notice how so much of our farming produce is exported. This is a good thing until we start losing our hygine and standard of living to make farmers a bit richer. This country has enough water fall on it to give every house 10 times the water it curently uses and still have enough for all our current farming. Governments need to get their act together but there is little votes in it. /end rant Phew Re: Vic govt changes rules on water tanks 18Jul 02, 2007 7:04 pm You missed my point 3xB.
I said Port Philipp bay to get a response - but think of it this way The oceans are all connected and if every country in the world installed massive desal plants , do you think the oceans could maybe get a bit saltier - even if only slightly? What impact could that have on fish stocks? Ever drunk bore water that is 200ppm, then 600ppm, 900ppm and 1500ppm. Try it sometime. Our farmers are? and I agree it's often caused by abuse not choice Have you been to the riverland of late? hectares of orange and other citrus trees are being ripped up and bulldozed by the bucket load due to lack of water. Do you have a half flush toilet in your house ? 40 years ago you would probably never have even heard of one? Do you know that there is a predictive watering system - designed in OZ and sold here and overseas that actually reviews the BOM weather forecast - If rain is due within a timeframe they turn the sprinkers on or off to stop any watering becasue it will be raining when it was "programmed to water" This system is already installed in SA, VIC, NSW & USA. I'm not suggesting in any way that we degrade our lifestyle. Just highlighting the fact that we should be more aware of how and where we use the resources we enjoy to use. Do you leave the hose running full bore on the concrete while you're washing the car? Allowing litres and litres of stored, filtered, and pumped water to run down the drain because you do not have a trigger handle on the hose - It used to be common - but these days most people are aware thatit is wasting wawter and we can turn it off while we are not using it. That's the sort of thing I'm talking about And yes - Industry can have the biggest impact and they are making a change - but to just say - store more water and make more avialable is not going to educate them, you or me. We just need to use it in more harmonious and smarter way . Steve (As for Matt - Well.... he will change Even if it takes 30 years and it's his son who helps him to learn that consumerism is not the all mighty of life Re: Vic govt changes rules on water tanks 19Jul 02, 2007 7:11 pm Yak_Chat (As for Matt - Well.... he will change Even if it takes 30 years and it's his son who helps him to learn that consumerism is not the all mighty of life NEVER!!! I am way to self centered for change..... Re: Vic govt changes rules on water tanks 20Jul 02, 2007 7:50 pm I'd be interested to know what impact that would have on fish stocks. Peter Clarkson - AusDesign Australia www.ausdesign.com.au This information is intended to provide general information only. It does not purport to be a comprehensive advice. That was always going to be a challenge and a test of patience. Full marks to your mate. Did you discuss the wet area near the trampoline? 16 17324 1 1914 |