Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7541Apr 11, 2015 9:53 pm My Waldorf 48 Blog: http://gisbornewillows.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7547Apr 14, 2015 7:37 am My Waldorf 48 Blog: http://gisbornewillows.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7548Apr 14, 2015 7:56 am My Waldorf 48 Blog: http://gisbornewillows.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7551Apr 14, 2015 12:57 pm My Waldorf 48 Blog: http://gisbornewillows.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7555Apr 16, 2015 2:02 am 'Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.' Blog: http://prestigebuild.blogspot.com.au Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7556Apr 16, 2015 8:56 am Building the Sandarah 45T with Porter Davis Blog: http://countrycityescape.blogspot.com Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7557Apr 17, 2015 8:08 pm ChrisHeli It was explained to me, but I do not fully grok it. There was a riser (fine, that's what was needed) but there was something about the horizontal bits of pipe. I think that they were too high, and would have intruded into the slab, thus reducing its strength. From memory, I thought that it was fine, I'll look through pics and see what we see. On the plus side Matt (the PD slab mgr) did apologise for not telling me (sooner) and offered to put some more risers in towards the end of the build to work around it. At the end of the day, I can live with that flexability. Though I'd really like to fully understand the WHY first. Ok. I get the WHY. The first thing to know is that only vertical pipes are allowed through the slab. Horizontal ones are not allowed at all. The drain point in the alfresco is 150mm lower than the rest of the slab, including the base upon which the concrete of the alfresco sits. Then there is the edge of the slab itself, the deeper channel that runs around the edge of the slab, which runs (at least) another 150mm deeper again. The horizontal storm water pipe that would flow from the vertical drain point into the rest of the storm water system has to be below all of that. Now this is where we run into problems. For two reasons. 1. The block slopes the wrong way. The block is sloped from front (heighest) to back, with a drop of 50cm over 40 odd metres. 2. The storm water (LPOD) is at the front of the block, and it is very shallow itself. Water does not flow up hill! The existing storm water is sloped at 1:100 so it can flow into the LPOD. So the naturn run of the storm water pipes has to be necessarilly shallow. To avoid horizontal pipes in the slab, they have to be deeper than storm water pipes would have connected into. Again, water does not flow up hill, so the end result is, no drain point for us. Talking to Matt, the PD Slab Mgr, whom I met today (decent guy, too), about 50% of the drain points are not happening. Particularly when I am and in Pt. Cook, where the storm water drains there are also very shallow. Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7558Apr 17, 2015 8:16 pm Thanks for the detail Chris! Makes a lot of sense. My Waldorf 48 Blog: http://gisbornewillows.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7559Apr 17, 2015 8:28 pm knyght Thanks for the detail Chris! Makes a lot of sense. It doesn't make any sense to me... how can this happen? All of the relevant drainage, height and slope information was available prior to build and so I don't understand how this can happen. Re: Building a Waldorf or Marriot by Porter Davis 7560Apr 17, 2015 9:22 pm Damn the frame goes up quickly!!! I was on site this morning with both Matt (the PD Slab mgr) and David V (our SS), both of whom I met for the first time, for an hour or so. In that time, they added a room. By the end of the day, the steel supports for upstairs had been put into place. Some of the guys will be working tomorrow (Saturday). So I'm guessing that the ground floor will be complete (frame wise) by monday, as they originally said. I also now understand why the garage roof will not be put on until much later: We have a Hebel house, one (that like some brick) will be rendered. They have to put up (and pull down) scaffolding two or three times throughput that process, and the garage roof trusses would get in the way of that. A definate Doh moment for me, once I bothered to think about it. So that is why you're likely to get an invoice for Frame Stage, even though the roof of the garage has not been put on it. Three options 1 Ask the liquidator 2 Find another PD customer and ask the source of their report 3 Pay for new report 3 13963 Hey guys building a new place through a volume builder and just wondering if i should complain to the site supervisor as we just had plasterboard installed. Looks like… 0 11753 |