Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 Sep 11, 2014 8:59 am Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 2Sep 11, 2014 9:05 am Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 3Sep 15, 2014 6:08 am Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Water Based on Brush Box 4Sep 17, 2014 8:59 am Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based on Brush Box 5Sep 17, 2014 9:06 am Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 6Sep 18, 2014 7:14 am Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 7Sep 19, 2014 7:44 pm Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 8Sep 19, 2014 7:46 pm Internal and External Building and Colour Consultant Online - Worldwide http://www.denovoconcepts.com Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 9Oct 01, 2014 1:10 pm Here is another one we fixed Yesterday and applied final coat today. This Spotted gum floor was coated with Water Based finish and never even lasted 2 years. Water Based coating. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f93/Qsand7/Watermilk2_zps4fab7b9c.jpg?t=1412114849 Before During and After 2 coats http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f93/Qsand7/WaterMilk_zpse1a6fd33.jpg?t=1412114865 After with Two-Pack Polyurethane. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 10Oct 20, 2014 5:55 pm This Architect was told to protect his new pine ply floor with a Quality Non-Yellowing Water Based finish. This is a brand new floor. The home is not quite complete, so they actually have not moved in as yet. How old does this floor look? Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ We sanded it, but unfortunately the water based coated offered zero protection and the stains went straight through the water based coating and deep into the ply as if there was no protection at all. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 11Oct 20, 2014 5:57 pm Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ In case you missed it, this is Non Yellowing Water based. Does this look Yellow to you? Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 12Oct 27, 2014 7:54 pm I'm not going to get embroiled in the back and forth that has gone on regarding this subject. I have to say though that there has been some selective use of pictures to prove people's points. The above picture has nothing to do with the finish applied and everything to do with situation the flooring has been put in. That flooring has not gone like that because of the finish, and to indicate it was coated and then under normal use has ended up like that is some what misleading. If I didn't know better I'd say that flooring has been exposed to the elements (weather and sun). Without knowing the full story (when, how, with what, by whom) regarding any floor finish, posting pictures to prove your point can be seen as misleading. I can show you pictures of just about any well tested building product (2 pack poly included) that under the wrong situation or because of incorrect installation has failed or simply looks rubbish. That doesn't mean it's not a good product when used by skilled trades people (as you obviously are) in a way that the product is meant to be used. I have no horse in this race, so what I'm saying is simply based on the things I have personally observed from my years in the building trade. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 13Nov 20, 2014 2:03 pm chippy I'm not going to get embroiled in the back and forth that has gone on regarding this subject. I have to say though that there has been some selective use of pictures to prove people's points. The above picture has nothing to do with the finish applied and everything to do with situation the flooring has been put in. That flooring has not gone like that because of the finish, and to indicate it was coated and then under normal use has ended up like that is some what misleading. If I didn't know better I'd say that flooring has been exposed to the elements (weather and sun). Without knowing the full story (when, how, with what, by whom) regarding any floor finish, posting pictures to prove your point can be seen as misleading. I have no horse in this race, so what I'm saying is simply based on the things I have personally observed from my years in the building trade. I don't think this is misleading. The initial post was Inside a home. It had no issues other than the coating failing to protect the end match pieces and sent them black. The last post, the Architect was told that Water based is NON Yellowing and that it would protect his floor. This is a brand new home which he has not moved in as yet. The product has clearly Yellow significantly in a very short period of time. And it has clearly failed to protect the floor. The two claims made by the water based company are The Misleading factors. They said it Would protect, and it would not yellow. It did not protect and it did Yellow. Who is misleading whom? Floor Sanding Brisbane with The Perfect Process. Only at Quicksand & Polish. Mark. Like us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/quicksandandpolish Re: Water Based Dirty little secret! 14Nov 21, 2014 2:18 am So are you saying, that plywood was installed inside, under a finished roof, then coated in a water based finish and ended up like that?????? As I said, the finish on that ply was not the problem. It has greyed and yellowed because it has sat in the elements. That ply would be looking pretty sad regardless of the coating. The picture of the scratches nicely shows what happens when you don't use furniture protectors. I'd say those scratches would have been in whatever finish was on the floor, water based or solvent. I dont care for one finish over another, personally I've seen good and bad in both. I just feel that for you to post those photos in a thread indicating that under normal use a water based finish can end up looking like that is misleading. Anyway as I said I'm not going to get embroiled in an argument. I'll leave it at that. You do nice work by the way, your floors look good. Accessible Carpentry & Cabinets accessiblecarpentry@gmail.com accessiblecarpentry.com.au https://www.facebook.com/pages/Accessible-Carpentry-Cabinets/583314911709039 Hi We are building in the Hunter Valley, our soil test is H1, our builder has advised us they need to have a letter signed for Fair Trading as the new drainage standard… 0 3551 thanks. the above one is white Mat tiles and have gripness so going for this Mat tiles for both indoor and outdoor. Beaumont told it can be used in both indoor and… 2 1670 8 6138 |