Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 5Feb 06, 2014 10:26 am I think you're overreacting a tad haha falling to your death. Don't forget there's framework and insulation and sisalation all between. I think you'd be surprised how strong it is. Also I'm not sure what gyprock you accidentally poked a hole in but it sounds rather cheap and nasty. Plantation's is 10mm thick which I've been told is better than other project builders which are often 8mm thick. If you can't get past it you could insist on them bricking it or something and see how the cost comes back for steel lintels etc over the windows. Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65085 Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 7Feb 06, 2014 3:06 pm Am I missing something here - are you saying they use PS rather than bricks - or as well as. I hate that "wood" look you often see on the first floor - is this what you mean ? We have a Pl house and gyprock seems ok to me - I've put screws in etc etc and had no issues. Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 8Feb 06, 2014 3:07 pm As a sleep walker - occasional - I'd hate to get up and fall through the wall ... Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 9Feb 06, 2014 7:54 pm No, they screw sheets of 50 - 75 - 100mm polystyrene foam to the timber frame then render it with an acrylic render. You can hardly tell the difference between that and bricks/render. Usually this is for the first floor with bricks on the ground floor but some do the poly on both levels. The false wood look you are talking about is Hardies woodgrain hardiplank; fibre-cement sheets with a wood pattern and yeah it does look cheap and nasty in my opinion too. Stewie Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 10Feb 06, 2014 8:47 pm EmyN Don't forget there's framework and insulation and sisalation all between. I think you'd be surprised how strong it is. Also I'm not sure what gyprock you accidentally poked a hole in but it sounds rather cheap and nasty. Plantation's is 10mm thick which I've been told is better than other project builders which are often 8mm thick. If "framework" you mean stud walls - there are cavities between those studs : Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ The "sisalation" is just a sheet of aluminium foil woven to some kind of polymer sheeting - could easily poke right through it if not it surely won't stop my fall to my death! Now, the construction technique nowadays for making these "polystyrene cladding" walls AKA Styrofoam walls means you do not need to put insulation into it - the polystyrene/Styrofoam outer wall is it! There all there is to it. This is what it looks like : EmyN Also I'm not sure what gyprock you accidentally poked a hole in but it sounds rather cheap and nasty. Plantation's is 10mm thick which I've been told is better than other project builders which are often 8mm thick. 10mm and 8mm aren't that much difference - they are PLASTER glue to PAPER! If you don't believe how fragile they are try bounce a basketball off it "Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is almost always somebody screwed up." Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 11Feb 06, 2014 9:06 pm Saint Mike Am I missing something here - are you saying they use PS rather than bricks - or as well as. I hate that "wood" look you often see on the first floor - is this what you mean ? We have a Pl house and gyprock seems ok to me - I've put screws in etc etc and had no issues. No, they usually look like they are rendered (flat). The one you are talking about is Linea board AKA weatherboard although in the old days they are made of timber but nowadays they are made of fiber cement. They are at least cement which is stronger than Polystyrene AKA Styrofoam. "Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is almost always somebody screwed up." Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 12Feb 06, 2014 9:07 pm Seriously? The alarmist way you're talking about it you'd think you're talking about a house made out of straws and crepe paper. Completed a knock down and rebuild in northern Melbourne. Handover completed 27/09/2013 and now moved in. Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 13Feb 06, 2014 9:36 pm I am just saying, buildings these days sure aren't as sturdy as they used to be. They sure won't stop bullets for sure (luckily the gobberments took the gun ownership away thank god!) so the home you think is your castle is no castle at all! "Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is almost always somebody screwed up." Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 15Feb 07, 2014 7:48 am You're off chops. No one is going to fall through that kind of wall. Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 16Feb 07, 2014 8:20 am You're right things like Micrometeorites could pass right through the wall and get me in my sleep http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/earthscience ... meteorites 101 Residential in Burns Beach viewtopic.php?f=31&t=67711 Shire Approval 31.12.13 Slab Down 15.02.14 Moved in 14.10.14 Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 17Feb 07, 2014 8:43 am Actually I think the core filled reo stryofoam blocks are a brilliant idea as they are very easy to build and go together like lego. Essentially the walls become moulds for concrete walls. I would not want the walls above as my primary protection in a war zone, but then weapons these days can easily make it through walls...... Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 18Feb 07, 2014 8:46 am Yeah a nuclear strike would just melt those polystyrene walls too. Completed a knock down and rebuild in northern Melbourne. Handover completed 27/09/2013 and now moved in. Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 19Feb 07, 2014 9:13 am Dr House 10mm and 8mm aren't that much difference - they are PLASTER glue to PAPER! If you don't believe how fragile they are try bounce a basketball off it I"ll support Dr House here on the fragility of plasterboard walls. We already have a few dents in the plasterboard walls in this house made by I know-not-what. In our previous house we had to repair a couple of holes in the plasterboard walls made by my son who was only about 9 or 10 at the time. I can't remember how he made one hole but his foot made the other rolling over the bed and into the wall. When my husband complained about the size of the hole he'd had to fix at work, one of his colleagues made him feel better by telling him how big the hole in the wall left by his son's bottom was! Re: Why are all houses these days made with Styrofoam????!! 20Feb 07, 2014 9:17 am I have a friend who is an architect based in S. Korea and Japan and I had a chance to have a long chat with him comparing the building material and process used in AUS and the two Asian countries. During our chat he said using Styrofoam for external wall is generally a bad practice because it absorbs water and moisture and can expand or shrink (i.e. during humid seasons it can go larger and in dry seasons it shrinks back). Korea and Japan have very long rainy season during the summer so that's probably why they are more strict in using Styrofoam (they only use it as insulation material like between brick and plaster). And I am not really sure if the one they use in AUS is any different from the normal Styrofoam we know. If it is less porous and stay in the same size all the way, I guess it is not a bad choice because like other people already said you will get better heat and sound insulation. 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