Browse Forums Owner Builder Forum Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 4Oct 16, 2013 11:24 am 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 6Oct 16, 2013 3:36 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 8Oct 16, 2013 4:05 pm 3in1 Supadiverta. Rainwater Harvesting Best Practice using syphonic drainage. Cleaner Neater Smarter Cheaper Supa Gutter Pumper. A low cost syphonic eaves gutter overflow solution. Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 12Oct 17, 2013 10:34 am Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 13Oct 19, 2013 5:14 pm building-expert ... but if you are a property buyer there is almost nothing riskier than buying off the plan or buying from an owner builder. Can you please qualify why it is so risky buying from an OB in Vic, as opposed to a registered builder? Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 14Oct 19, 2013 7:16 pm qebtel building-expert ... but if you are a property buyer there is almost nothing riskier than buying off the plan or buying from an owner builder. Can you please qualify why it is so risky buying from an OB in Vic, as opposed to a registered builder? No problem qebtel. Before becoming registered builder in Victoria you will be required to have appropriate and relevant education and experience and to display competencies as below ( lifted from BC web page): Domestic Builder Registration The competencies herewith are specific to the registration category and class of building practitioner, for the purpose of registration with the Building Practitioners Board, under section 170 of the Building Act 1993. Business management Knowledge of: • business planning• cash flow budgets• basic accounting principles• employment law• contractors law• communication practice • organisational skills• conflict resolution• problem solving• human resource management• occupational health and safety • insurances– professional practice– employees– domestic building contract• information technology• quality assurance systems • self-development principles.Ability to:• implement financial strategy• interpret accounting documents• use costing information • prepare income and expenditure projections• manage business taxes• monitor financial performance. Building technology Knowledge of:• Australian Standards• Building Code of Australia (BCA) 2005• local council requirements• general construction technology terms and methods• Victorian Building Commission’s Standards and Tolerances. Building work management (operational) Knowledge of and ability to:• administer a domestic building contract• establish a building site• apply scheduling methods• apply stock control principles• apply quality control to building works. Knowledge of:• principles and law of contract• building contracts and contract documents• contract administration• dispute resolution• insurances• tendering and estimating• quality concepts• time management. Building work management (supervision) Knowledge of:• insurance claims• tender preparation and documentation, estimating and preparation of a bill of quantities • occupational health and safety issues at the worksite and the workplace• hazard assessment and control• site induction program • site responsibilities of various personnel at a worksite• occupational health and safety principles and practices• roles of site managers and supervisors• establishment and ongoing site maintenance • scheduling• communication• purchasing and record flow. Legislation Knowledge of:• Building Act 1993• Building (Interim) Regulations 2005• Domestic Building Contracts Act 1995• Domestic Building Contracts and Tribunal (General) Regulations 1996 To be an owner builder, you will not require to satisfy the above or any competencies So if you are buying from an owner builder you will not know about his/hers competencies therefore the risk. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 15Oct 19, 2013 10:20 pm You gave me a good laugh. 90% of the above 'competencies' does not affect the quality of the house whatsoever. From what I have seen the average owner built house is of higher quality than the project builders. Nonetheless, when you buy a house, judge the house on its merits, not whether it was built by an owner builder or house 24855 of 26384 from builder X. You can have both minor and major issues with a house built by a OB or 'Master Builder'. Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 16Oct 21, 2013 9:47 am Agree with JB1's comment above 100%. Building expert, you have been to VCAT many times with grievances against reg builders. You know as well as anyone, having a formal qualification in their competency does not guarantee the consumer against slipshod work. The risk is just as great, whether OB , or reg builder. Caveat emptor at all times. Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 17Oct 21, 2013 1:52 pm qebtel Agree with JB1's comment above 100%. Building expert, you have been to VCAT many times with grievances against reg builders. You know as well as anyone, having a formal qualification in their competency does not guarantee the consumer against slipshod work. The risk is just as great, whether OB , or reg builder. Caveat emptor at all times. You are right about caveat emptor and that competence does not guarantee performance but then lack of it does not either. JB1 is also right when he says" You can have both minor and major issues with a house built by a OB or 'Master Builder'." In practice I have seen some very good owner builds and some very poor professional builds and vice versa. I was talking about relative risk: (for the property buyer) 1 Professional builder not performing, against 2 Amateur builder not performing Amateur builder has a bigger burden to overcome (lack of knowledge, training and experience) therefore the risk has to be higher. The risk of something slipping past because he does not know what to look for. So I don't agree when you say " The risk is just as great" Yes qebtel, caveat emptor. Foremost Building Expert in Australia,assisting with building problems/disputes, building stage inspections,pre-contract review advice for peace of mind 200 blogs http://www.buildingexpert.net.au/blog Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 18Oct 21, 2013 10:33 pm Just anothers thing to add re the skill set of avregistered builder. You dont actually need any of those skills to build a house for profit. It is perfectly legal for a registered builder to submit thevplans on behalf of another unexperienced person for a negotiate feem Even if the person runing the business holds the licences they are not usually the one building your house. Re: Owner Build - Inspection Report Issues 19Oct 22, 2013 8:49 am Perhaps I used the term owner-builder incorrectly? I don't mean that this person physically built the house, I mean that he employed other tradesmen to do so, but, it wasn't done via one of the large builders like Metricon etc. Anyway we did end up putting in a formal offer for this house after a lot of research and calls to the various inspectors/surveyors to clear up any concerns we had. There are a few things we may touch up/add/fix. I'll post here when we move in (Feb 14) and have lived in the house for a bit to see how it feels with a bit of time there. I'm sure we will notice some things when living in it of course. Currently we are looking at getting an alarm system, connecting the catchment tank to the internal water facilities, and a few other tasks and just speccing out their costs. Sorry but you have a crap builder. Probably too late now. For our last build I only spoke to builders who would allow me easy access (at no cost). 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