Browse Forums Building A New House 1 Aug 18, 2012 8:49 pm Deposit Paid 31/10/12 Selections 25/1/13 NHC 28/2 DCA 20/3 Siteworks 2/5 Slabbed 20/5 Wall Frames 3/6 Brickwork Finished 2/7 Lock Up 19/7 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58864 Re: Building with Rendition 2Aug 20, 2012 8:46 pm . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 3Sep 14, 2012 11:14 pm . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 4Oct 18, 2012 8:59 pm Deposit Paid 31/10/12 Selections 25/1/13 NHC 28/2 DCA 20/3 Siteworks 2/5 Slabbed 20/5 Wall Frames 3/6 Brickwork Finished 2/7 Lock Up 19/7 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58864 Re: Building with Rendition 5Oct 19, 2012 6:30 am . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 6Oct 19, 2012 6:35 am . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 7Oct 20, 2012 6:41 am Deposit Paid 31/10/12 Selections 25/1/13 NHC 28/2 DCA 20/3 Siteworks 2/5 Slabbed 20/5 Wall Frames 3/6 Brickwork Finished 2/7 Lock Up 19/7 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58864 Re: Building with Rendition 8Oct 20, 2012 8:04 pm . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 9Oct 29, 2012 9:35 pm Deposit Paid 31/10/12 Selections 25/1/13 NHC 28/2 DCA 20/3 Siteworks 2/5 Slabbed 20/5 Wall Frames 3/6 Brickwork Finished 2/7 Lock Up 19/7 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58864 Re: Building with Rendition 10Oct 30, 2012 12:06 am . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 11Nov 13, 2012 9:38 pm Deposit Paid 31/10/12 Selections 25/1/13 NHC 28/2 DCA 20/3 Siteworks 2/5 Slabbed 20/5 Wall Frames 3/6 Brickwork Finished 2/7 Lock Up 19/7 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58864 Re: Building with Rendition 13Apr 17, 2013 7:36 am . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 15Jun 16, 2013 7:45 pm Deposit Paid 31/10/12 Selections 25/1/13 NHC 28/2 DCA 20/3 Siteworks 2/5 Slabbed 20/5 Wall Frames 3/6 Brickwork Finished 2/7 Lock Up 19/7 viewtopic.php?f=31&t=58864 Re: Building with Rendition 17Jul 24, 2013 2:08 pm Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66299 Slab: 16/6/14 Frame: 4/7/14 Roof: 22/7/14 Lock Up: 20/8/14 Fixing: 26/8/14 PCI: 9/10/14 Handover: 20/10/14 Re: Building with Rendition 19Jul 24, 2013 5:00 pm We're at the stage of being 98% of the way to receiving our final price from Rendition for a plan of my own design. Our sales consultant has left Rendition and is now working for another SA builder....... yet remains our consultant. We've had MANY issues getting this far with them, but to be fair to them, their version of the story is that the vast majority of the issues are caused by us, as I'll explain. After looking at a few builders we were happiest with Rendition as they seemed the most eager to accept our own plan. However, even then, it soon became apparent that while they were the happiest of the lot to work with our plan, they, like all the other builders, want to do things "their way". The main "issue" we're having with them is getting an actual price for the project. It seems that "their" process is to give the customer a contract which becomes the price for a "standard" house. Then, when you have signed the contract, and are committed to the build, only then do you do all your selections, make the changes you want from the "standard" house, find out your energy efficiency and encumbrance requirements and have all of these calculated to give you your "final" price. Call me strange, but I want to know the price of the house BEFORE I sign the contract. I've tried to explain to the sales consultant with reference to the nice Subaru he drives, I just know that when he purchased it, his dealings with the car dealer did not go like this.......... Him...."How much is that WRX ?" Car Dude..."The base car is $45,000" Him..."How much for optional carpets, leather interior, paint protection, climate control, roof racks, registration, insurance and dealer delivery fees ?" Car Dude..."Don't worry about that" Him..."Well, how much will I get for my trade-in ?" Car Dude..."Don't worry about that either, just sign for the $45,000 base price and we'll tell you all the other costs later" Him..."OK" As I see it I'm spending a large multiple of what he paid for his car on this new house and don't consider it unreasonable that I get the price before I sign on the dotted line !!!! So, the builders have their process which works (very well) for them, but my attitude is, "I'm sorry, but I want the process to work very well for me !!" While I am hopefully reasonably knowledgeable about my job, I'm not an expert in the building trade. To this end we have engaged an independent consultant who has been working with us to help us polish off our plans, with our selections and acting as our agent in a lot of the dealings with them. She seems to really know her stuff, and all the "tricks" that the builders use to ensure that the playing field is firmly tilted in their direction !! Just one, small, example ........... She is vehemently opposed to Prime Cost (PC) and Provisional Sum (PS) amounts on the contract. They have a PS amount in the contract for the termite protection. "No," she says.... "they know the area of the slab and the know the perimeter of the slab and if they don't know the cost per square meter or lineal meter then they can make a 'phone call to the termite people, get a price and put the firm price in the contract." Without a firm price in the contract you're effectively signing a blank cheque for any costs. While there is no suggestion whatsoever that they would do so, with having this amount in the contract as a PS cost, they could come back to you and say "Your termite protection is $50,000" and there would be nothing you could do about it !! Unlike other posters I have found their bureaucracy awful, maybe they are great if they don't have to do anything "different", but for us........... However, I must admit that having broken through the walls we now have a direct line to their "technical people" and these people are absolutely fantastic !! Brilliant indeed !!! Being our own design the floor-plan works (now that our consultant has tweaked it) very well for us, but of course it's not a building or engineering plan. More then a few times we've been in direct contact with their technical people (both us contacting them and them contacting us) with technical issues over the plan. The conversations generally go something like this..... Them..."We can't do .... because of ...., how about we do ....." Me.."Not a fan of that, could you do...... " Them.."No, but we could do...." Me..."Well, if you did ... could you do...... to compensate" Them..."Yes, but we'd have to do.... as well and then that would work out perfectly" Me..."Done !!" Before we got this far with them we did a lot of research into them. I've talked to quite a few of their "Tradies" as they're working on site, always asking the same questions....How long have you been working for them, do they pay you a fair rate, do they pay you promptly and finally what's their supervisors like ? Every one of their tradies that I've talked to has worked for them for a fair while and of course I've never asked WHAT the pay rate is, but they all say it's a fair rate and they get paid on time and the supervisors are good. Can't ask for more than that !! I've knocked on a few of those same doors after the owners have moved in and they are all happy with the outcome, and generally pretty happy with the process too. So.....In summary, I think that all builders want to do things "Their way" and stumble at any non-standard obstacles that you place in their way, and I think that, slowly but surely, we're getting to the end of the first stage of our journey with Rendition, and if we can get past this stage without too many more bumps and bruises hopefully it'll be a lot easier sailing after this !!!!! Fell free to ask me anything else or PM me .... P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Building with Rendition 20Jul 24, 2013 5:27 pm Sorry to hear you've had that experience! Sounds like a lot of headaches... Glad to hear that it is slowly resolving itself now We have a list thats incredibly lengthy - mainly full of encumbrance related inclusions abd what upgrades we want costed up front, rather than later on. Pretty much have said point blank that this will need to be nutted out prior to our signatures being put to paper. We also requested a tour of the Modello studio prior to a contract as it was pointless us making a decision with out seeing the standard inclusions or what upgrades were available and the price difference. She was more than happy to take us through and we are visiting next week with her, so that should bring some more insight for us as to what we are getting in to. Provisional sums have been a crux for home builders for so long... I was bitten with them in my first build and they arent nice to come up against. They do have to provide a basis for the costings when the final sums are presented, the trick is ensuring that the Provisional sums and prime costed items are as close to as what they should be and arent grossly underquoted in the first place (like my first build). If that is done correctly, it definitely eliminates the surprise element! This can be done, but it comes down to researching independently what these things are likely to cost and ensuring its well catered for in the contract. Its an "eyes open" excercise thats for sure, but there are a lot of very valuable resources out there to assist with information. Theres also a big onus on us as the owners to ensure we are as educated as we can be, for our own sanity and for the health of the back pocket as well! Thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66299 Slab: 16/6/14 Frame: 4/7/14 Roof: 22/7/14 Lock Up: 20/8/14 Fixing: 26/8/14 PCI: 9/10/14 Handover: 20/10/14 Thanks for your reply. I will just wait and see I guess. 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