Browse Forums Building A New House Re: Things you forget - summary page 27 623May 28, 2013 2:58 pm Blog http://tobuildahomeimprobable.blogspot.com.au/ Settlement Apr Council Jul Contracts Dec Earthworks Dec Frames Jan Trusses Feb Roof Feb Windows Mar Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 625Jun 13, 2013 10:50 pm . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Things you forget - summary page 27 627Jun 14, 2013 11:11 pm . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Things you forget - summary page 27 628Jun 15, 2013 6:56 am Something else to go on the list in the Garage section. If building in areas vulernable to cyclones make sure your garage door is cyclone wind rated. A recent law has just come out that all new homes in cyclone areas (north of bundy) because garage doors were a common failure point up here during cyclone yasi and can do a fair bit of damage. Will probably reduce the insurance cost too, i hope. here is the link http://www.masterbuilders.asn.au/buildi ... nd-updates cheers pd Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 629Jun 17, 2013 10:00 pm Thank you so much to everyone that contributed to this list, it took so long to read and i now have pages andpages of things to check but im sure it will all come in so handy, such valuable information i would of forgotten about. Eden Brae Drysdale 27 | The Blog Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 630Jun 18, 2013 6:47 am Like Renski said, thanks to everyone for this list, and to PD for maintaining it! It has proven invaluable for us After 2 false starts, a year living overseas, two more world trips and 3 years of uncertainty we are now starting the build process again - hopefully for real this time! Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 631Jun 18, 2013 8:27 am Great list, but I wish it had better grammar and spelling. i.e. FOXTEL - wants data, should be 'requires coaxial cabling'. etc and less acronyms, so non technical people can understand the requirements. Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 633Jun 18, 2013 12:45 pm Vatche Great list, but I wish it had better grammar and spelling. i.e. FOXTEL - wants data, should be 'requires coaxial cabling'. etc and less acronyms, so non technical people can understand the requirements. Thank you for your response. I agree that the list is not totally grammatically correct and has spelling errors in it. For my part, when I "update" the list if I notice any obvious grammatical, spelling or technical errors in the immediate vicinity of where I am typing, these I do correct. However, I have not had the time to go through the entire list and check all 624 lines for errors, yes, I just loaded the document into Word and counted them !! Also, the list is intended as a "Guide" to things that people may forget, things that they hadn't even thought of, things that could be done differently to what they had thought of doing, a heads-up if you will. It is NOT a definitive guide of everything that must be done, to use your example of Foxtel, the Original Poster (OP) had posted "Foxtel - Wants data". Not being a plumber, electrician, air-conditioning / refrigeration mechanic or Foxtel Installer I take all of these posts at face value, and don't "edit the facts" unless I know them to be wrong or feel I can add more information. I have done some research and found that in a pre-wire for Foxtel the requirements are ....... *********************************************************************** From the home control hub to the wallplate..... 2 * Foxtel Approved Cables (3* if stand alone FTA) 2 * Cat 6 cables From the access point..... 4 * Foxtel Approved Cables to the home control hub for Satellite 1 * Foxtel Approved Cables to the home control hub for Cable Foxtel approved cable must be RG6 Quad Shield Cable certified as being suitable for Foxtel Double power point http://www.foxtel.com.au/cms/groups/web ... 016352.pdf *********************************************************************** This would have changed the OP's line from one line to nine lines. Would "The list" really benefit if every item was expanded to a nine-line check-list for each and every item and became around 5,000 lines long ? It's reasonably long now, hence my attempt to group it into sections !! So yes, Maybe the OP could have written all of the above, but while I realised Foxtel needed coaxial cable I *personally* didn't know that it ALSO needed data cabling, so in the particular instance you mentioned, for me, "Foxtel needs data" was something that I didn't know and something that I probably needed to know, and as such, the post was relevant to me at least !! So, for me, if I was considering getting Foxtel, instead of saying to my pre-wire guy.... "I want Foxtel coaxial cable run to....." I would say.... "I want Foxtel coaxial and data cable run to...." I think that the whole point of the person who started the list was just this, to create a space where members could put in things that they had missed, that they wished they knew ahead of time and where their experience could benefit others. I don’t think it was intended as a step-by-step list of everything that must be done in order to construct a new house. Also, please don't forget that many of the posts are written by people who may not have a university-degree grasp of the English language, or indeed people for whom English is not their first language. I would much rather people with less English skills then say, yourself, feel free to contribute to this thread without fear of having their language skills criticised than feeling too embarrassed to post for fear that others may mock or criticise their language skills rather than considering the intent of what they are trying to say. When my kids were in school and used to play sport, the daughter netball and the son football and soccer, I was always so very grateful for the many parents who gave so freely of their time to run the teams and umpire. Sure, occasionally the umpires made a “bad call”, but I saw that as a result of them not being professional umpires, just parents helping out, giving up their time on their weekends so my kids could enjoy sport and I really grew to appreciate volunteers in our community who did their best when they could be doing other things. In My Humble Opinion. P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 634Jun 18, 2013 12:51 pm Who cares about the grammar, we just appreciate the hugely helpful list that saved so many of us from making huge mistakes or missing critical details! Keep up the great work, and know that the last thing most of care about it the grammar. HD Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 635Jun 18, 2013 1:19 pm Dear Pepsi_Drinker, I never for one moment wanted to upset you in any way, and do commend the hard work has gone in maintaining this list. All I wanted to say that a wrong or misrepresented information sometimes can be more harmful than help, to people who have no clue. I'm sure there are many users here on this forum who can correct and have an input to the list, which I think is a living file that will keep growing. You do not need uni degree to have some form of correct grammar and spelling. Again, there is a difference between "wants data" and "requires data cable". No matter how obvious the "wants data" is to majority of people, "requires data cable" would make sense to 99.99% of people reading. Does not need to have full technical details as you mention. I have taken some of this list and added mine, corrected and used it for myself, and I know how hard it is to keep maintaining. Don't feel obligated to give all your time. Ask for help. Many would love to contribute any which way. Again, THANK YOU so much for the list. Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 636Jun 18, 2013 4:59 pm Well, if you can't stand the incomplete nature of the list, read the whole thread. I have (twice - second time around taking notes). It takes a while, but so does planning a build - especially if you're a perfectionist and likes to check and double check whether or not something has been forgotten. Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 637Jun 18, 2013 5:40 pm Danois Well, if you can't stand the incomplete nature of the list, read the whole thread. I have (twice - second time around taking notes). It takes a while, but so does planning a build - especially if you're a perfectionist and likes to check and double check whether or not something has been forgotten. I think my comments are taken out of proportion here. I never said the list was incomplete. I just wanted the list to be better presented, since so much effort and time has been put into it. Surly some of us here can contribute for its presentation. After all, it did help lot of us during our planning and build stage. Collaboration is the key for everyone's benefit and success. Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 638Jun 18, 2013 5:53 pm Pepsi_Drinker has done a great job of presenting a user-friendly list that will save many of us a lot of time by not having to read the thread from beginning to end. Must have taken you a while, Pepsi_Drinker--thank you for doing that. Vatche, if you improve on it, that would be awesome and everyone will be grateful to you too, but in the meantime we have a pretty good guide to help us through the process. Thanks everyone who has contributed. Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 639Jun 19, 2013 5:32 pm Amazing thread! Thanks to everyone who has contributed - I've now added copious notes to my already long list for prestart. Re: Things you forget - summary page 32 640Jun 21, 2013 10:16 am Quote: I can only take credit for a couple of dozen or so of them as being my original ideas, the other 500 or whatever are of course contributions from so many others, to all of them the thanks goes. I'm just a humble word-smith and editor !! No mate, you are much more than that.---> A lecturer I had at Uni once said to me copying from one source is plagiarism. Copying from two or more is research ! Where would we be without copy and paste ? Ha ! I'd be lost for sure. Vatche - there is always this excellent guide by forum member "Pugs" with other contributors as well if you go into the Home Theatre and Automation forum "A Guide to Terminology and Acronyms" viewtopic.php?f=34&t=41846 Maybe PD could include the link in the Data/ Home Entertainment summary ? YMMV - IYKWIM Something else I just learned from this post here viewtopic.php?f=34&t=64763 is that most HDMI cables won't fit down a standard 25mm conduit. If you are pre-wiring your home theatre for cables and have installed 25mm conduit to enable you to run those HDMI cables through after hand-over you may not be able to - or one at the most not two or more. You may be forced to either buy special HDMI cables or have the sparky install bigger conduit - 32mm maybe. That however may not be possible for structural reasons. Stewie Depends what you're current inclusions are, but we're not including wardrobes and will just use second hand ones until we can save later on to get them built. Also have a… 3 11647 Looking to start the journey of becoming an owner builder in SA. Feeling pretty (overly) confident on the building and construction details, but really struggling to find… 0 8423 No. It's not original. Circa early to mid 90s would be my guess and maybe even as late as early 2000s 1 6636 |