Browse Forums Lighting + Lighting Design 1 Jan 22, 2016 3:40 pm We've settled on this pendant x 3 for our island. Island 3m x 1.2m deep. Ceiling height raked 3.6 to 2.7 (2.7 over island). Room fairly large. It comes in 18cm diameter and 28cm. Unsure if 18 is too small, but whether 28 will be too big? Just want to get it right in terms of the scale of the room. Smaller bulb is LED 2 watts (equiv to 20 x 3 lights) and larger is LED equivalent to 40 watt x 3 lights. I know 28cm pretty big for a pendant but they are glass so not sure whether could get away with bigger just dont want them to look small. We will have another pendant over the stair void but none elsewhere. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: Island bench lights 2Jan 22, 2016 3:51 pm I would get three and cluster them one end of the bench at different heights. have normal down lighting for the rest of the bench Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Island bench lights 3Jan 22, 2016 4:11 pm We have 300cm Long Island by 90cm and we're looking at going with 18cm wide pendents. We're looking at more of a solid concrete style fitting but like you said, because yours are glass and you also have 120cm wide island, you might be able to get away with the larger type. Re: Island bench lights 4Jan 22, 2016 5:33 pm iverson_iii We have 300cm Long Island by 90cm and we're looking at going with 18cm wide pendents. We're looking at more of a solid concrete style fitting but like you said, because yours are glass and you also have 120cm wide island, you might be able to get away with the larger type. Yeah I bought the smaller ones in a rush but I think I need to swap them. The room itself is quite big too plus the island is 60mm edge.. Should not have been so hasty that's the thing about buying online.. Sending them back is a pain Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Island bench lights 5Jan 22, 2016 5:34 pm Ponzu I would get three and cluster them one end of the bench at different heights. have normal down lighting for the rest of the bench That's a nice idea a little different to the norm.. Could put them down the "eating" end, ultimately though I don't think the lights or kitchen are high end enough to carry the asymmetry Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: Island bench lights 6Jan 22, 2016 5:50 pm Leksie5000 Ponzu I would get three and cluster them one end of the bench at different heights. have normal down lighting for the rest of the bench That's a nice idea a little different to the norm.. Could put them down the "eating" end, ultimately though I don't think the lights or kitchen are high end enough to carry the asymmetry Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Spacing them out across the bench looks tacky though. Perhaps they might serve better as feature lighting elsewhere? Bedroom pendants, in the hall etc. lovely lights, just think that they would be cheapened in the usual configuration Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Island bench lights 7Jan 23, 2016 5:50 am Ponzu Leksie5000 Ponzu I would get three and cluster them one end of the bench at different heights. have normal down lighting for the rest of the bench That's a nice idea a little different to the norm.. Could put them down the "eating" end, ultimately though I don't think the lights or kitchen are high end enough to carry the asymmetry Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Spacing them out across the bench looks tacky though. Perhaps they might serve better as feature lighting elsewhere? Bedroom pendants, in the hall etc. lovely lights, just think that they would be cheapened in the usual configuration Yeah, I agree it's kind of overdone but I think with the right light it doesn't have to necessarily be tacky. That's why I went for glass I guess. Thing is at the larger light, it's equivalent of 120 watts across the lights so would actually be fairly useful task lighting as well. Spacing them out also has a practical consideration in terms of task lighting. I'll have to bring them along once the bench is in and experiment a bit, I think they've already roughed it in though.. That's where I wonder to put two instead of 3 so it's less f the norm. I did spend quite some time looking for a large rectangular hanging light instead of the usual pendants for the reasons you say but didn't have any luck. I feel clustering them is risky in terms of shadow though, form follows function. Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: Island bench lights 8Jan 23, 2016 9:25 am There is a reason for three. Ever heard that three is the magic number? http://designshack.net/articles/layouts ... us-number/ If you go with the lights across the bench, don't use two, just do the original plan. Two will look wonky unless asymmetrical down one side and at different heights Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Island bench lights 9Jan 23, 2016 4:14 pm Ponzu There is a reason for three. Ever heard that three is the magic number? http://designshack.net/articles/layouts ... us-number/ If you go with the lights across the bench, don't use two, just do the original plan. Two will look wonky unless asymmetrical down one side and at different heights Yeah I know, three and odd numbers are generally there for a reason. It can work in some cases but again, tricky. Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Island bench lights 10Jan 23, 2016 4:17 pm Ponzu There is a reason for three. Ever heard that three is the magic number? http://designshack.net/articles/layouts ... us-number/ If you go with the lights across the bench, don't use two, just do the original plan. Two will look wonky unless asymmetrical down one side and at different heights Yeah I know, three and odd numbers are generally there for a reason. It can work in some cases but again, tricky. Tho, rules are made to be broken, see this project below I am aware of and found on Houzz. Not a great pic. Its cocoa pendant x 2, a good size light though. I'm no guru.. Just stick with the tried and true I think! You need either a smaller island or big pendants to have any hope of making two work, to minimise the larger air gap. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: Island bench lights 11Jan 23, 2016 9:20 pm More has gone into the design of that kitchen than just the number of lights though, and elements of three are present in that kitchen throughout. The colours and materials for one. Sure design rules can be broken, but are typically broken by those familiar with the concepts. I'm sure whatever you do with you lights will be lovely Creator of superduperonium, expert at expert things, nobel laureate, can hold my breath for 10 minutes. Re: Island bench lights 12Jan 24, 2016 12:16 am Hmmm can you post a pic of the globe you will get? Just that we have glass pendant lights and my husband complains of the glare add the ones we had were too bright! And putting in the 25w Edison ones are too dim for the kitchen. Re: Island bench lights 13Jan 24, 2016 5:35 am Yeah I worry the larger light would be too bright with the glass fitting.. These are 5 watt LEDs at 2200k so a warm white, 5 watt is equivalent to a 40 watt globe.. It's exactly this globe with the look of the old fashioned filaments Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: Island bench lights 14Jan 31, 2016 9:33 pm I think you'll be disappointed with 2 watt LED globes, especially in a pendant like that where the light output is in all directions. I think you'd want at least 60 watt equivalents. Personally I prefer pendants that direct the light downward for kitchen benches and dining tables. It cuts out glare and it directs the light down to where you need it. But I wouldn't agonize over it, it's one of the easiest things to change later if you don't like it. Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: Island bench lights 15Feb 01, 2016 3:22 am 1960sModernistHome I think you'll be disappointed with 2 watt LED globes, especially in a pendant like that where the light output is in all directions. I think you'd want at least 60 watt equivalents. Personally I prefer pendants that direct the light downward for kitchen benches and dining tables. It cuts out glare and it directs the light down to where you need it. But I wouldn't agonize over it, it's one of the easiest things to change later if you don't like it. Yeah we've swapped them for the bigger pendants and wattage! Thanks for your reply Custom knockdown rebuild Newcastle NSW viewtopic.php?t=78271 Re: Island bench lights 16Feb 16, 2016 4:37 pm We went with 4 large glass pendants over our island bench (3.45m long). May sound a lot however the area is quite open. We also have a skillion ceiling. To small over a large bench doesn't look right either. I suggest you measure up the island to scale, maybe on the floor/ table etc and place a cut out (represent each light) the same width as your lights on top and see if it looks ok. I hope that makes sense. You get a good idea of symmetry that way. We love the glass lights. We didn't want the lights to be the first thing people saw in the space. We wanted the view to be the star You get 360 degrees of light, with a glass pendant, which is great because I didn't want down lights in this space. The four lights are also on a dimmer. Good luck and try and enjoy the process Re: Island bench lights 17Feb 16, 2016 5:37 pm Thanks! Yes I totally get what you mean. We ended up just ordering the larger ones instead which I think will work better. I love the glass lights too. We've also just ordered a light for our void so it's getting exciting! Not sure how it will look but we can always return it. 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