Browse Forums Lighting + Lighting Design 1 Jan 10, 2016 12:17 am We are planning to install our down lights after the handover. We are about to finalise our electrical plan so far we have just installed a plug base in the ceilings but we would also like to install dimmers for the down lights. Just wondering if anyone has done this ? We also wish to go with Clipsal Saturn switches and just wondering if dimmers can work with them. I have tried to get information from Clipsal website but so far nothing has helped us. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Re: LED and switches 2Jan 14, 2016 6:01 am Yes and yes - won't be a problem. Just make sure that the lights you buy are compatible with a Clipsal dimmer Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: LED and switches 3Jan 14, 2016 6:33 am jpmontoya We are planning to install our down lights after the handover. We are about to finalise our electrical plan so far we have just installed a plug base in the ceilings but we would also like to install dimmers for the down lights. Just wondering if anyone has done this ? We also wish to go with Clipsal Saturn switches and just wondering if dimmers can work with them. I have tried to get information from Clipsal website but so far nothing has helped us. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks I have done what you have done and had the clipsal dimmers installed in rooms where required. My downlights are purchased and are clipsal dimmer compatible. I had a batton holder placed in a intended location of one downlight in each room. That way the sparky can come along and replace batton holder with a surface socket. I will install downlights as they will just plug into the sockets, then I will cut the holes in ceiling and clip in the lights. Re: LED and switches 4Jan 14, 2016 7:14 am There is a gadget you can add in that stops flicker - if you have it with the dimmers. Re: LED and switches 5Jan 14, 2016 7:15 am The installation of plug-in downlights is a bit of a grey area in terms of regulation. It is true that they are safe to plug in and install, however there are additional physical installation rules in AS3000 that need to be followed. Generally this is to maintain stipulated clearances from combustible building materials and insulation. Just approach with caution. If you do install your own downlights and there is a warranty claim then it is very likely that the lighting supplier would reject a warranty claim if not installed by a licenced electrical contractor. Also, if the lights caused a fire because they are too close to timber or insulation then your house insurer may reject an insurance claim for the same reasons. Re: LED and switches 6Jan 14, 2016 7:50 am 1960sModernistHome The installation of plug-in downlights is a bit of a grey area in terms of regulation. It is true that they are safe to plug in and install, however there are additional physical installation rules in AS3000 that need to be followed. Generally this is to maintain stipulated clearances from combustible building materials and insulation. Just approach with caution. If you do install your own downlights and there is a warranty claim then it is very likely that the lighting supplier would reject a warranty claim if not installed by a licenced electrical contractor. Also, if the lights caused a fire because they are too close to timber or insulation then your house insurer may reject an insurance claim for the same reasons. I should have qualified my install intentions, I am aware of manufacturers requirements for installation and mounting positions and insulation issues. I have these and their transformer holder to fit as well. http://www.arrowform.com.au/downlight-c ... uard&idx=4 Other than compliance with all that, I don't see that there can be an issue with plugging in the downlights that come with the plug and flex. The cable work is all done and certified by certificate of compliance from the electrical install of the house during the build. They are LED downlights. Re: LED and switches 8Jan 14, 2016 11:15 am jpmontoya Thanks for feedback yep we want to get a sparky to come in and do the whole install. So I guess when buying LEDs we have to be careful that they are compatible with Clipsal dimmers. Yeah just check with the lighting supplier to see what dimmers they are compatible with and you should be right. It was a big problem in the early days but most lighting suppliers seem to have it sorted now. Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: LED and switches 9Jan 14, 2016 11:19 am goody59 I should have qualified my install intentions, I am aware of manufacturers requirements for installation and mounting positions and insulation issues. I have these and their transformer holder to fit as well. http://www.arrowform.com.au/downlight-c ... uard&idx=4 Other than compliance with all that, I don't see that there can be an issue with plugging in the downlights that come with the plug and flex. The cable work is all done and certified by certificate of compliance from the electrical install of the house during the build. They are LED downlights. You should be ok but mainly just highlighting it so people reading are aware of the potential issues. In terms of plugging them in to sockets in the ceiling, I am not aware of any regulation stopping you from doing this as it's not classified as fixed wiring, so should be fine. Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: LED and switches 10Jan 14, 2016 10:31 pm Why not get these Then they will work,no guesswork http://updates.clipsal.com/clipsalonlin ... 000278.pdf Re: LED and switches 11Jan 15, 2016 6:47 am One other tip along with the dimmer flicker device , we had all of ours plugged - not wired - in. If one goes you can just unplug and replace (under warranty). They may do this but some may try to wire them. It costs VERY little extra. 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