Browse Forums Lighting + Lighting Design Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 21Apr 03, 2015 2:10 pm I had someone else here offer to do that.. but haven't heard back from them lol Cheers, Paul (& Lisa) Parkhill 36 by ClarendonHomes in Coomera Retreat H1 Build Thread And Blog Building Blogs List - Go Ahead And Add Yours!! Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 22Apr 04, 2015 1:07 am Thanks everyone for the feedback. Andrew, I found your observations quite contrary to what I've been reading on lighting design. It seems the consensus amongst those who claim to be in the know is to light up the walls and provide task lighting where it's needed. I guess that's what I've been aiming to do. However, as Modernist Home has pointed out, it takes planning, and knowing where furniture etc. is going...that's where I'm struggling a bit. Something I do know however, is that when we're in our lounge room now, we never sit down with the downlights on...it's always the lamps...so it does seem a bit pointless to even install them. For anyone shopping around for lights, I've been doing a bit of testing. My non scientific observations are as follows: - Lanark 13W warm white LED scoop light - light seemed very contrasty and not as warm as the other lights I tested even though it was the same (3000k) - didn't do my paintings any favours. Won't be purchasing. This looks identical to the domus scoop...I haven't tried that one though - Brightgreen D900 - The quality of this light was almost identical to the halogens in my current house. The colour they produced also blended in very nicely with my existing lamps (incadencent bulbs). This was my favourite light as it really made the red in my jarrah floor boards pop (we're getting jarrah in the new house). There was however a slight noticible magenta hue to the light. - Brightgreen D700 - yuk. Was a really magenta almost purple colour. It's a shame, as I would have used these as my wall washers to highlight paintings as the gimble was good. - Wattsaver DL7 Warm White - This was also a nice quality of light...the paintings looked good under it. However it had a distinctly greenish yellow tinge. I really wanted to like this one the most, as the Wattsaver rep I was speaking with was very helpful and even offered to fit the light into the scoop style housing...I thought I could get used to the greeny tinge, however, when I tested it back at my rental on the Jarrah floor boards, the timber just didn't look very nice. The reds in the timber just didn't come out. So in conclusion, I'll be getting the Brightgreen D900's for the kitchen/laundry/bathrooms (I think I can install them there?) and possibly the bedrooms - can get them for about $60 each, but I'm undecided on what to do for the wall washers. I have another sample scoop light I'm testing next week (also looks identical to the Domus one). Hopefully I'll like that. Other than that, I've seen housings like this...I'm wondering if I can use Led's in them? I'm guessing they'll really cut the amount of light that's thrown and I'll have to have more of them? It's all starting to seem a bit hard really...now I know why everyone just puts a grid of downlights in their houses My daggy testing at the new place... My New Home Build with Dale Alcock - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66662 Landscape Design Thread - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=71784 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 23Apr 04, 2015 1:17 am And on other exiting news, I've finally bought some pendant lights (the OH and I finally came to agreement)! For above the dining table. I will probably install a downlight on either side as the pendant probably won't cast even light across the table. Two above the kitchen island. I'm thinking of putting a downlight in between them as I don't think it will be bright enough. The two small white pendants - they were on special so we got em. Will likely hang them above a side table in the open plan living as we don't have any power for a table lamp. My New Home Build with Dale Alcock - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66662 Landscape Design Thread - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=71784 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 24Apr 13, 2015 12:01 pm I've found a downlight I like and am hoping to use for wall washing but it only has a 25 degree tilt. Is that enough to get a decent wall wash effect? My New Home Build with Dale Alcock - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66662 Landscape Design Thread - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=71784 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 25Apr 13, 2015 2:39 pm Below are some photos I took today of a project where I used the Domus wall washing profile in my design. It is the administration building of a school. In the staff lounge (top photo) I have used LED downlights with very low glare characteristics so you can't see bright spots all over the ceiling. You can hardly tell that they are even on except when you look at the brightness on the floor. It doesn't look very bright, but this mainly due to the dark carpet and the poor indoor photography of my phone. There is about 160 lux average on the floor through this space, and quite high and uniform illuminance on the walls. In the meeting room (middle two photos) I have used wall wash profiles and some low glare downlights, both separately switched. The soft wall wash lights can be left on during a presentation on the projector so the image isn't affected by the glare. The low glare LED downlights provide about 240 lux on the meeting room table when they are on (they're switched off for this photo). I could have just put grids of downlights or recessed office fluoro's throughout, but I wanted to go for a more comfortable upmarket feel without spending a fortune. It can be done!! The wall wash LED profiles are all 4000k, all LED downlights 3000k. Everything has a CRI of 85 or higher. Sorry for the poor image quality, these were taken on my phone. http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/tobes_01/20150413_110056_zpsreamlwja.jpg http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/tobes_01/20150413_105610_zpsm5ygfc1b.jpg http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/tobes_01/20150413_105911_zps8btordfw.jpg http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/tobes_01/20150413_110430_zps2olg2emp.jpg Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 26Apr 13, 2015 3:22 pm Looks great but I'm not sure it answers my question. I've tested two different scoop lights that look identical to the domus one and I didn't like the quality of the light (I suspect the domus one is also identical). They were > 80 cri. I can't seem to find any other reasonably priced nice led scoop or snorkel style lights. I got a quote for one with a high cri the other day for over $200 for one. I've found the brilliant lighting titanium 12W light which is almost the same quality of light as the brightgreen d900 that I've settled on for the kitchen. But it only has a 25 degree tilt. I don't know if that tilt is enough to effectively wash the walls. I'm also picking up a brightgreen d900+ today to test that. I think that has a larger angle it can tilt. My New Home Build with Dale Alcock - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66662 Landscape Design Thread - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=71784 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 27Apr 13, 2015 4:58 pm Sorry - completely forgot about answering your question! 25 degree tilt will be ok providing it has a reasonably wide beam - say 45-60 degrees. I'd install it maybe 300-400mm off the wall. Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 28Apr 13, 2015 4:59 pm Check out these - the MiniHELI range is around the $40-40 mark, has to be purchased from electrical wholesaler. http://www.famco.com.au/downlights/ Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 29Apr 13, 2015 11:52 pm I went to three electrical wholesalers today with no luck finding any wall washer lights. I then rang a specialist lighting mob that one of the wholesalers suggested...they didn't stock the miniheli range...the cheapest one they could recommend was $150 for CRI >80...CRI >90 would have been greater than $200! Now I know why everyone puts grids of downlights in...it's so much easier. One of the big lighting stores today still stocks a snorkel style halogen for just under $60...that's very tempting since I know I'll like the light and I can direct it where I like. mmm..not sure what I'll do and the electrician is coming Friday! ps. thanks ModernistHome for all the info My New Home Build with Dale Alcock - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=66662 Landscape Design Thread - https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=71784 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 30Apr 14, 2015 6:20 am Yeah wholesalers generally won't stock any light fittings really except for the basic commodity stuff. It's all ordered in. Maybe have a chat with your electrician and see if he can order them on his account. Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 31Apr 14, 2015 10:38 am hey 1960's - are the 2 long recessed wall washers in pics 2/3 in your above post these ones? http://www.domuslighting.com.au/catalog ... -ev-ext211 If not, could you link to which it is? That's exactly what I want for my cellar . thanks! Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 32Apr 14, 2015 11:35 am travisaus hey 1960's - are the 2 long recessed wall washers in pics 2/3 in your above post these ones? http://www.domuslighting.com.au/catalog ... -ev-ext211 If not, could you link to which it is? That's exactly what I want for my cellar . thanks! Yes, it is from a different supplier, but the same product. In a cellar I would recommend warm white LED's though. the LED strip I specified in these profiles is around 800 lumens/9-10 watts per metre. One thing I would change about the wall washer profile, I specified them to be powdercoated satin white. This resulted in them appearing a bit too bright on the ceiling due to the high reflectance of the satin white finish. In hindsight I would probably have powdercoated them a rough matt finish, maybe grey, or just left them as natural aluminium silver finish. Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 33Apr 17, 2015 11:49 pm Modern.. in those photo's it seems you have created a dark ceiling? Now if I have read things correctly, should we be trying to light the ceiling to create space? Cheers, Paul (& Lisa) Parkhill 36 by ClarendonHomes in Coomera Retreat H1 Build Thread And Blog Building Blogs List - Go Ahead And Add Yours!! Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 34Apr 18, 2015 6:32 pm It's generally good to get a bit of light on the ceilings, this can be from floor lamps, wall mounted uplights etc. But for non-task related spaces I believe getting light on the walls is the most important of three. The main reason why the ceilings (and floors) look so dark in those photos is because of the poor exposure of the camera phone, it over exposes due to the intensity of the lights, which makes the surroundings look very dark (disclaimer: I am not a photography expert - far from it!) The only other way to do it is really by using surface mounted lights (oysters), concealed cove lighting, or pendants that have upward lighting. Building Services Engineer Renovating our 1960's modernist home in Brisbane https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82091 Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 35Apr 21, 2015 12:27 pm I spoke to a person in a lighting store yesterday and they looked at me with this strange expression and asked "You've been reading things on the internet haven't you? LMAO!! Well of course I have. She then politely told me.. "Forget all that crap. Put lights where you want them. Put them where YOU will be happy" You know.. I think you can put soooo much time into "Thinking" about lighting that you loose sight of the basics Cheers, Paul (& Lisa) Parkhill 36 by ClarendonHomes in Coomera Retreat H1 Build Thread And Blog Building Blogs List - Go Ahead And Add Yours!! Re: Feedback on new home lighting design 36Apr 21, 2015 7:24 pm After all I have said, I do agree with that! 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