Standing in a friend's place with both near each other tonight made me start to doubt my choice of cool downlights in our new place. This got me thinking.......
Wondering what peoples preferences are?????
Vote and/or comment to share your thoughts.
Browse Forums Lighting + Lighting Design 1 Apr 22, 2013 12:15 am Standing in a friend's place with both near each other tonight made me start to doubt my choice of cool downlights in our new place. This got me thinking....... Wondering what peoples preferences are????? Vote and/or comment to share your thoughts. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 3Apr 22, 2013 12:47 am i was always thinking cool...but my mum just had some put in and they look out of place. might just be because they are different but for her home warm would suit better i think. Cool might fit in more in a modern looking home whereas hers is countryish! some brands have "natural white" now which Im keen to check out! Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 5Apr 22, 2013 1:20 pm We chose warm white but looking at them in person in the shop it was inbetween the other warm whites + the cool white. I would say looks more like daylight haha I don't like cool white personally though even when comes to normal globes. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 6Apr 22, 2013 3:39 pm Based on the received from Wattsaver we will be going for warm everywhere but the kitchen where we are going to use "natural white" I don't mind the natural but definitely wouldn't put them in the bedrooms Our build thread with Redink 11/1 - Prestart 5/4 - Slab 29/4 - Brickwork 27/5 - Roof Cover 20/6 - Lock Up 20/8 - PCI 10/9 - Handover Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 7May 18, 2013 9:07 pm Our experience shows us that this is a purely personal preference issue. My advise would be to make sure you see the colour you are buying in action beforehand and make your decision based on a real life scenario. Kind Regards, Kristin Lighting Expert Phone -1300 798 220 Email - service@golights.com.au Website - http://www.golights.com.au Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 8May 18, 2013 9:29 pm GoLights Our experience shows us that this is a purely personal preference issue. My advise would be to make sure you see the colour you are buying in action beforehand and make your decision based on a real life scenario. With reports of cool white washing out floor boards (and other "warm" materials), I don't think it's just a matter of preference. And even if it was, reading about why people prefer or not prefer or certain type is helpful anyway. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 9May 18, 2013 11:08 pm We went with Natural LED's in the lounge and dining and games room - from Wattsavers. Just recently replaced the original above island bench pendant globes - from CFL's to warm white LED's. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 10May 20, 2013 10:45 pm Having seen cool whites, neutral whites and warm whites, with rating at 2400K, 3000K, 4000K, 6000K, all I can say is see it in action. Have seen some 3000K warm white that looks neutral, whereas some 4000K neutral that looks blue. Could also be a function of the CRI; even the better LEDs are about 80, although there is now a 90 available, so in certain situations, due to wall and furniture colour, it can look good or bad. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 11May 20, 2013 11:00 pm Thanks everyone for your thoughts. We have gone with cool as we have a very white place and the warm in the Haneco ones we are getting just looks too yellow for us. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 12May 24, 2013 1:49 pm We have cool - so glad we chose them. The light is magnificent - not dull yellow. IMO - at least have them in the kitchen or if you intend to read using them. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 14May 26, 2013 7:58 am Not sure what this "cold" means. We prefer good light - not dull or "warm"/yellowish. We don't find the higher Ks cold or nasty in any way. I feel this is a myth put out by people selling the other ones ... BUT - look at both in a house setting - not a shop. My wife loves good light. I'm not talking spot lights here - just clear light - like the sun gives. You can always have dimmers if you want to tone it down at night or for ambience. BUT - you can't make "yellow" lights better than they are. Don't believe all the negative stuff about clear/natural light. We have them and they are great. You also don't need to have them all on together - ie only those near you. I feel people think too much about it and find issues that aren't really there ... but that's just me ... Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 15May 26, 2013 3:29 pm Saint Mike Not sure what this "cold" means. We prefer good light - not dull or "warm"/yellowish. "Cold" is a reference to the colour temperature. This shouldn't be confused with Luminous Flux, which is effectively the amount of light. For example, a 1000 lumen globe is outputting the same amount of light, regardless of whether it is cool white or warm white. The reason warm white is generally preferred in residential lighting is because it is what human beings are adapted to. For millions of years the only significant light source after dark was fire. This produces a very warm colour temperature. Some people can find it quite difficult to relax under cool lighting in the evening, and cooked food can look dreadful under cool white light. Put a roast chook under a halogen globe, and then under a cool white floruo or LED, the difference is amazing. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 16May 26, 2013 3:43 pm offshore Put a roast chook under a halogen globe, and then under a cool white floruo or LED, the difference is amazing. Not only a chook but a human being too!! My Mum has cool lighting in the bathroom and it's godawful for applying makeup or anything. I look like a corpse and it highlights all the pigmentation. My personal preference is warm. I think it makes a home. More cosy. There's a reason fancy restaurants use lovely warm lighting and candlelight. It creates a relaxed, intimate ambience and is flattering! And I certainly don't find it more difficult to read with warm light, in fact cool light I find quite "glarey". Even the "natural" white we found way too glarey. It seems to wash all colours out or something. Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65085 Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 17May 26, 2013 4:13 pm Mmm, I like good light - ie sunlight. "Cool light", as you call it, is the closest to this. But - as I said - have the other in the bedroom if you don't read by it. Warm does make it cosy - but we get this by using the dimmers - or well placed lamps - or both. We were going down the warm light road - but I am glad we saw the light ... so to speak ... Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 18Jun 13, 2013 10:41 pm That's why I say take a look at the light. The supplier I use has a light room to test various lighting, so daylight doesn't enter into the equation. I found the cool white to have too much of a blue tint (confirmed with testing at home) and made for odd colour rendering, whereas the warm white was closest to the existing halogens. Sunlight does not have a blue tint. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 19Jun 14, 2013 9:09 am PHL is exactly right the kelvin rating and color of the light can be two different things. Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ There are many more factors to what light 'appears' like upon leaving an LED but the chart above shows the Kelvin line and what colors surround it. When buying LED chips the manufacturer will try and stick to this line as best as possible (called binning) but realistically they will always offer a tolerance or let us 'the purchaser' pick an acceptable range of error. You will notice that anything 5000k+ has quite a lot of blue surrounding it. A blue looking light is "generally" the case of poor binning. 5000k has more blue than 3000k but if made well should look whiter not bluer. Getting high quality light is usually lower priority than cost so unfortunately we now have the "general" opinion of: "I dont like that warm white light it looks too yellow" "I dont like cool white light because its too blue (sometimes stark/clinical)" The next thing to realise that LED lighting is not full spectrum lighting like the sun so its not a viable comparison to color either. Our job it seems is becoming more of an educational role for our clients and remember as always you get what you pay for. Re: Cool or Warm LEDs 20Jun 14, 2013 9:31 am So thinkwise can you give us any practical tips on how to get good quality lights that aren't too yellow/blue? What should we look for?? Build thread: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=65085 |