Browse Forums Lighting + Lighting Design 1 Oct 23, 2009 9:00 pm We are at lockup stage (YAY) and trying to organise our downlights. We are getting mixed messages from different shops RE the need for a safety cannister with energy saving 240V CFLs. We know they are required for halogens, but are not sure about the CFLs. Does anyone know?? Ta BUILT with Homebuyer's Centre - Aussie Alfresco Games viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16668 Moved In - Dec 14th Painting all but done - Jan 11 Front Landscaping - Feb 8 Moved In PICS Page 43 Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 3Oct 26, 2009 1:18 pm We have been told by some of the "big" shops that we need them, but are wondering if they are just making money. At $10-15 each it starts adding up!! One person told us it was something to do with putting halogens in later on?? What, I thought they were different entirely??? BUILT with Homebuyer's Centre - Aussie Alfresco Games viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16668 Moved In - Dec 14th Painting all but done - Jan 11 Front Landscaping - Feb 8 Moved In PICS Page 43 Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 4Nov 15, 2009 3:00 pm as far as i am aware, the requirements for safety canisters is only for recessed downlight installations where the fitting produces an exposed temperature in excess of 90°C (at 25°C ambient) 12v downlights often reach these temperatures but depending on the CFL downlight, it would be very unlikely for these fittings to even get close. Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 5Nov 16, 2009 9:44 am Thanks, that was pretty much my understanding too. We have gone with the CFL's so can't wait till they are installed BUILT with Homebuyer's Centre - Aussie Alfresco Games viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16668 Moved In - Dec 14th Painting all but done - Jan 11 Front Landscaping - Feb 8 Moved In PICS Page 43 Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 6Dec 01, 2009 10:21 pm Hi Kirsada, have your CFL D/L been installed yet ? let me know once they are in, i am always interested to hear what people think of them and which fittings and specs where used. Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 7Dec 08, 2009 9:38 am No, not yet, but I will let you know!! BUILT with Homebuyer's Centre - Aussie Alfresco Games viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16668 Moved In - Dec 14th Painting all but done - Jan 11 Front Landscaping - Feb 8 Moved In PICS Page 43 Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 8Dec 08, 2009 7:43 pm cool, good luck with the install - this is the best part of the project when they put in all the cool finishes !!! enjoy ! Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 9Dec 15, 2009 3:45 pm Hills Guy Whilst I am no electrician, I am looking into the same thing. My advice is that no safety cannister is required. I always thought that safety canister wouldn't be needed with CFL downlights. I phoned the Energy Safety people and they wouldn't give me a straight answer, so I had to leave it up to the electricians doing the install. The reult was that Espar GU10 CFL downlights DO need safety canisters. (Or maybe the sparkies needed a new set of golf clubs! ) Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 10Dec 15, 2009 4:04 pm kirsada We have been told by some of the "big" shops that we need them, but are wondering if they are just making money. At $10-15 each it starts adding up!! One person told us it was something to do with putting halogens in later on?? What, I thought they were different entirely??? That is BS. You should report those stores to the ACCC for mis-information. I imagine that a lot of their customers just fork out and buy the (probably over-priced) canisters thinking that they are a requirement. The new Wiring Rules that came into force last year for downlights only impose that a barrier is required for loose-fill (blow-in) insulation. For batt type insulation, you need to allow for minimum spacing only - no requirement for a guard or canister. By the way - the canisters are around $6 each (for very decent aluminium ones) if you look around on line. And they are certainly the type of thing that you can install yourself. I would recommend them for their insulation properties more than anything else and they will improve the maintenance of your light fittings (fewer bugs will get in). Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 11Dec 15, 2009 10:40 pm would really be good if they just realised simple guidelines to this issue !!! Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 12Jan 11, 2010 3:31 pm So, our energy saving CFL downlights are in and they are fantastic. We have 4 per room all warm white, 6 in kitchen in cool white. All are 15W and there is NO PROBLEM with them. The amount of light they produce is excellent and no issue with time to warm up etc. I don't know the specs. BUILT with Homebuyer's Centre - Aussie Alfresco Games viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16668 Moved In - Dec 14th Painting all but done - Jan 11 Front Landscaping - Feb 8 Moved In PICS Page 43 Re: Safety cannister needed for CFL Downlight?? 14Jan 13, 2010 12:35 am I'd use them anyway. the amount of crap that gets blown in from the roof space between the gaps is heaps. Anything that closes that gap up is all good in my books Hi everyone. I am a single mother with little daughter, living in a small tourist town in WA Australia. 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