ring them,
the dl1400 is the new replacement for the older model 1320
or at least thats what i thought.
Browse Forums Lighting + Lighting Design Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 42Jan 22, 2013 8:16 pm MissEm Time to reignite this thread - Are there any other reccomendations for LED downlights apart from brightgreen and wattsaver? We are liking the look of the wattsavers as they are a lot cheaper than the brightgreen d900s, and heaps of people on here seem to be happy with them. Really don't like the wattsaver website though - seems a bit shady and all over the place, eg if you click to purchase the DL9 1320 it takes you to a page with the new DL9 1400?? And no 'add to cart' buttons anywhere...... 2 months later and they still don't seem to have updated their website as I was wondering the same thing. So it seems it would definitely be best to call them. Seriously thinking about the wattsavers! Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 43Jan 22, 2013 9:39 pm I've ordered the wattsaver DL7- 1400 LED in natural white and warm white to trial. I'm going downlights for the whole house. I'm going to trial the DL7s $50 and compare it to - e27 CFL 15/20w downlights Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ $15 with good globe. - 13w cree cob led downlight Like ⋅ Add a comment ⋅ Pin to Ideaboard ⋅ $35 - 35w IRC halogen $20 with good Globe. The downside of the CFLs is the CRI, however CFLs such as the Phillips are very bright, and CRI is much better than before. The other downside of CFL is the cut out is big at 105mm. I'm worried that if I want to replace it in future once LEDs become better and cheaper. I want the lounge room and kitchen bright. The bedrooms don't need to have the brightest lights because I will have 4 lights in each room. Unless the LEDs are superior to the 35w IRC with nice colour, I think I will save my money and get the 35w IRC for now and look at replacing it with better LED once they are $20 or so. Just a matter of time. 12v halogen were also >$100 when released. Once I test them personally I will make a decision. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 44Jan 22, 2013 9:44 pm I'll be interested to hear your feedback. I still think we'll go the wattsavers but always good to hear other pov's Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 45Jan 23, 2013 7:35 am As we have said before, we have them and are not disappointed. Certainly better than others that were nearly same price but far less ouput Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 46Jan 23, 2013 8:09 am delatite13 As we have said before, we have them and are not disappointed. Certainly better than others that were nearly same price but far less ouput It seems that way for sure. We were given a lighting plan by a company with brightgreens in mind and for our 5.5 x 6 room they said to have 6. But looking at your room which is bigger than ours we would only need 4 so that is a cost saving just on the number needed let alone the price of each downlight itself. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 47Jan 23, 2013 8:58 am Maybe once someone installs - they could start a thread - "LED Downlights - Options" etc. Then state what they bought - where, and a rough price. Also the lights details. THEN - give a summary of satisfaction ! Anyone interested could PM them. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 48Jan 23, 2013 9:45 am Saint Mike. - As said we have them installed and have for about 6 months now with no problems at. We find them very good and at least equal to or better than a halogen light. As for another LED thread, there's a couple of hundred of them now. It's confusing enough. Smithies Wife - The shop is hard to find. Try this link. http://www.solarledlighting.com.au/index.php They're listing the DL7 and DL9 as sold out at the moment.?? This will give you info about the DL9 http://www.solarledlighting.com.au/view ... oductid=72 When we purchased ours we spoke to the owner Stephen and arranged it that way. Also found out a lot more about the lights and then submitted our order via email. We generally had a reply the same day with the invoice to pay. Also I believe they now have or can supply a driver that does more than one light, it wasn't ready when we bought. Just have to do the maths for that one. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 49Jan 23, 2013 10:20 am SmithiesWife It seems that way for sure. We were given a lighting plan by a company with brightgreens in mind and for our 5.5 x 6 room they said to have 6. But looking at your room which is bigger than ours we would only need 4 so that is a cost saving just on the number needed let alone the price of each downlight itself. a room the size of 5.5 x 6m, I will go 6 if not 9 lights. LED downlights are not miracles, don't forget to factor in the beam angles. General rule is 1 m from walls and 2 metre spacing between down lights. for my 6 x 6 room, I'm installing 12 because the steel beams mean I can't install the lights 1m from the wall, I had to go 80cm or 120cm. I chose 80cm and then added 2 row of lights rather than one. As I said, I do like my rooms bright, but I have 2 circuits with the option of running dimmers in future. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 50Jan 23, 2013 1:26 pm Delatite do you know the difference between the dl7-1400 and the dl9-1400??? Have looked on the website and all the outputs etc are the same, so the only difference it seems is price? Oh and the fact one is a 72mm cutout the other I think is 90??? We are pretty much sold on the dl7's - probably around 35 - 40 of them. Apparently takes 10 days to fill order as they are assemble here in oz. Building the Riva by Dale Alcock Homes. Follow our progress here: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=57075 Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 51Jan 23, 2013 2:51 pm Apparently They have the same brightness, but different sizes. I suppose the DL9s may be for people with larger cut outs for their existing lights. I'm going for the 7, even though I have a feeling it will be marginally dimmer due to the smaller reflector. Just physics at work. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 52Jan 23, 2013 4:36 pm Yeah good thinking JB1, had never thought of that. Think the old GU10 halogens are much larger cutout. We are going for the dl7's because they are cheaper and hopefully not as obtrusive looking. Also pretty set on white instead of the stainless look. Have seem them on a members thread and they look fantastic. Building the Riva by Dale Alcock Homes. Follow our progress here: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=57075 Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 53Jan 23, 2013 4:48 pm We fitted CFL downlights into our house to replace the halogens to reduce the heat load in the house and give off a better light. We used these from Beacon Lighting: http://www.beaconlighting.com.au/enviro ... inium.html Even using 11 watt globes they gave out a good light. The maximum globe they are designed for is a 15 watt globe but we have just stuck with 11's in the house and 9 watt globes outside under the eaves. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 54Jan 23, 2013 6:33 pm Hi E1109 thanks for the input. Just curious, is there still a warm up period for modern CFL's or are they pretty much full brightness when turned on?? We didnt even consider CFLs because of the light colour, its bluey white and looks like a warehouse but they do come in warm colours now don't they??? Building the Riva by Dale Alcock Homes. Follow our progress here: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=57075 Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 55Jan 23, 2013 6:50 pm E1109 We fitted CFL downlights into our house to replace the halogens to reduce the heat load in the house and give off a better light. We used these from Beacon Lighting: http://www.beaconlighting.com.au/enviro ... inium.html Even using 11 watt globes they gave out a good light. The maximum globe they are designed for is a 15 watt globe but we have just stuck with 11's in the house and 9 watt globes outside under the eaves. That's good to know, the ES or E27 globes certainly give a lot of light. In your downlights are the globes pointing down or sideways. The fittings that point sideways are brighter as the spiral CFL lights give off most of their lights on the side. I'll be keen to test the 15 or 20w fittings. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 56Jan 23, 2013 6:55 pm MissEm Hi E1109 thanks for the input. Just curious, is there still a warm up period for modern CFL's or are they pretty much full brightness when turned on?? We didnt even consider CFLs because of the light colour, its bluey white and looks like a warehouse but they do come in warm colours now don't they??? The latest good CFLs (not the 3 for $5 specials) such as the Philips I use for my bathroom and table lamp turn on near immediately (within a sec) with 90% brightness (in my eyes). They reach full brightness in 30secs or so. The old ones were horrendously slow to warm up. They come in warm colours too, but don't have the same crispness (CRI) of Halogen. That said I'm still considering them, the only way to test it is with a baffle, dark room and side by side. I'm secretly hoping I'll be happy with the CFLs as its the cheapest option that doesn't require special globes or transformers. Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 57Jan 23, 2013 7:44 pm The DL7's have a similar spread of light as a normal halogen light, although I think brighter. The DL9 is a larger 90mm light with a larger reflector giving a much larger spread. We had spread at ground level on a 2.55 ceiling of approx 2.5 metres plus. We cover a width of approx 7 metres with 2 lights placed appropriately with no problems. Settlement 1/2/12 New Shed 23/3/12 Slab poured 27/3/12 Frame complete 4/5/12 Roof complete 1/6/12 LOCKUP 29/6/12 Our new build blog http://kareenhillsownerbuild.blogspot.com/ Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 58Jan 23, 2013 9:38 pm We have high ceilings (31 course) throughout our living areas so that should make the spread even further correct?? Our living/dining area is 8.5 x 5.5 and we were thinking 8 downlights for that area. Pretty sure that will suffice. Games room is 5.5 x 3.8 and we're going to put in 4. Building the Riva by Dale Alcock Homes. Follow our progress here: https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=57075 Re: Incandescent & halogen downlights?? 60Jan 25, 2013 6:55 am delatite13 Saint Mike. - As said we have them installed and have for about 6 months now with no problems at. We find them very good and at least equal to or better than a halogen light. As for another LED thread, there's a couple of hundred of them now. It's confusing enough. Totally agree. Its why I suggested a straight thread - just what people have purchased and a report on them - NOTHING ELSE ! I've found trawling through the hundreds of threads quite tiring and often useless. BUT - a simple thread - maybe columns -with brand names - sizes - etc etc and a brief report would be quite useful. NO discussion on it ! Example - Phillips "Blues Brand" - 12 Watt - 800 lumens - 60 degree - 2.5m ceilings. Cost $50.Found these excellent in alfresco and halls. No discussions, analogies, comments, thoughts, or hundreds of posts. You could then PM the person if you wanted. |