Hi,
I notice carpet tacks sticking out from the transition of the carpet area to the tiled area and some of them stick a lot. Enough to injure oneself. Surely this can't be normal? Should I just hammer the tacks down or is this a bad installation?
Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 Feb 07, 2012 9:27 pm Hi, I notice carpet tacks sticking out from the transition of the carpet area to the tiled area and some of them stick a lot. Enough to injure oneself. Surely this can't be normal? Should I just hammer the tacks down or is this a bad installation? Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 2Feb 08, 2012 4:38 pm The strip tacks should not have been placed in a foot traffick area. If you hammer them down then the carpet will have nothing to hold onto. This is what I would do, try and carefully take the carpet up but with out a knee kicker this maybe hard to do. If you get the carpet up than now is the time to hammer all the nails down then use a carpet glue to bond. It may be advisable to have a professional carpet layer/repairer come out and do it for you. Craig Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 3Feb 08, 2012 4:43 pm Klam, the carpet layers here did the same and we all got cut feet leaving blood spots all through the house, so I went around and tapped the spikes down gently with a hammer. Not hard enough to flatten them completely, but enough so they don't cut feet any longer. Carpet layers wouldn't come back, they said it was too far!! Pity they had been paid before this was discovered because it would have been 'too far' to pay the full price!! Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 4Feb 08, 2012 9:38 pm Hammering the tacks down won't make the carpet let go of the carpet-gripper. The tacks are at an angle and fold over and still grip the carpet. Be aware that on some carpets, that folding over of the tacks can pull the pile down with it, and can be visible. Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 5Feb 08, 2012 9:40 pm Grout Perfect, is what you are saying that glue instead of tacks is the correct way to join carpet up to tiles? Are there any potential issues with that like when you want to replace the carpet? Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 6Feb 09, 2012 6:43 am Good Question Jazzy. I would like to see that glued instead of Gripper & it would be the 1st I have seen it done with adhesive if that is what Grout perfect is implying. If you carpet is thin or very short pile, you will feel the gripper where it meets the tiles. The Installers should have lightly flattened the spikes enough so you don't hurt your feet, but not too much that they won't hold onto the carpet. The other option would be to have used a multi-purpose pinned trim with pvc capping, but finishing the carpet upto the tiles using gripper & then tucking to the edge of the tiles is generally preferred by most people from a visual point of view. Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 7Feb 09, 2012 8:00 am When I did a carpet installation course we were always told not to install tack strips in walk way areas due to the problems arising such as nails sticking out after the carpet starts to wear. When we have to repair these areas we were taught to remove the strip and to directly stick the carpet down using carpet glue a lot safer and lasts longer. In saying that sometimes we can not remove the tack strip as it can cause damage to the concrete or there will be a different height to where it meets the tiles etc so we will tap the nails down than glue the carpet onto the tack strip. Please note as I mentioned above if you tap the nails down than there is no way the carpet will hold in a traffic area and it will only get worse over time and the tack strip will be visable. If you have to pull up the carpet no problems we just use a scraper but you will not be able to relay the carpet. I have training videos on all of this but they are to long to post on here. If we are doing a new install we will use tackless strips and glue the carpet to it but only in walk way traffic areas this is the Australian standard of carpet laying. Craig Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 8Feb 09, 2012 7:20 pm The multi-purpose trim and capping, can realistically only be used against tiles that are no more than approx. 10mm difference in height at the carpet/tile junction. The capping cocks up and looks unsightly on much over 10mm. Carpet-gripper should not be used at a walkway if there is a continuous floor height. [ unless it is covered by a cover trim ] Std. Carpet gripper is 7mm thick, so it can be used for finishing to a tile angle trim of 10mm or greater. If there is no angle trim at the tiles for 10mm, or more, that is another problem, why is it not there. Once the carpet is stretched onto the pins, they must be tapped over in a doorway/tile junction to reduce the problem of feeling the tacks through the carpet. Obviously, the thickness of the carpet has a bearing on whether the tacks will be a problem in a walk area. If the carpet is properly stretched onto the pins, taping them over will not release the carpet off the pins. Quite the opposite, in fact. Just glueing the carpet to the floor is IMHO, a bit rough. The carpet has no tension on it to reduce buckling, right in the area where you have traffic. Mark Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 9Feb 09, 2012 8:25 pm Grout Perfect When I did a carpet installation course we were always told not to install tack strips in walk way areas due to the problems arising such as nails sticking out after the carpet starts to wear. When we have to repair these areas we were taught to remove the strip and to directly stick the carpet down using carpet glue a lot safer and lasts longer. If you have to pull up the carpet no problems we just use a scraper but you will not be able to relay the carpet. I have training videos on all of this but they are to long to post on here. If we are doing a new install we will use tackless strips and glue the carpet to it but only in walk way traffic areas this is the Australian standard of carpet laying. Craig I don't doubt anything you are saying, but I would definitely like to see your copy of the Australian Standards & the line that states installing carpet onto tackless strips with adhesive bonding. You could do something like that as a Turn & Tack type install, stretch the carpet upto the gripper & then Staple the carpet between the pile to the wood strips. When installing Coir & Sisal it has been recommended to staple the carpet to the gripper. As for installing carpet against tiles, that is a valid point with the height issues that an installer can come across. I have also installed commercial gripper, flattened the pins, installed the aluminium pinned multipurpose base onto that to remedy the height issue then once installed, the pvc capping sits nice & flat as it would if using thinner ceramic tiles. Re: Carpet tacks poking feet at doorway 10Jul 15, 2019 11:21 am Grout Perfect When I did a carpet installation course we were always told not to install tack strips in walk way areas due to the problems arising such as nails sticking out after the carpet starts to wear. When we have to repair these areas we were taught to remove the strip and to directly stick the carpet down using carpet glue a lot safer and lasts longer. In saying that sometimes we can not remove the tack strip as it can cause damage to the concrete or there will be a different height to where it meets the tiles etc so we will tap the nails down than glue the carpet onto the tack strip. Please note as I mentioned above if you tap the nails down than there is no way the carpet will hold in a traffic area and it will only get worse over time and the tack strip will be visable. If you have to pull up the carpet no problems we just use a scraper but you will not be able to relay the carpet. I have training videos on all of this but they are to long to post on here. If we are doing a new install we will use tackless strips and glue the carpet to it but only in walk way traffic areas this is the Australian standard of carpet laying. Craig Sorry craig you are miss informed.The Australian standards are to use the timber smoothedge against tiles.carpet spikes just need to be tapped down.30 years of experience Take a pick with a level sittingo n the slab and a pick with a level sitting on the sill please. This will help us diagnose the issue and therefore a solution. RE,… 8 9392 1 11004 1 15753 |