Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 Nov 24, 2007 5:23 pm Hi everyone,
Hoping you can help us make a decision on which carpet to choose. We've been told the 80/20 is better quality but the nylon is more stain resistant and less maintenance - therefore the better option. We liked the velour finish of the nylon and it seems softer (which we like) but the wool looks more elegant. Interested in what other people think... Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 2Nov 24, 2007 6:19 pm Where are you going to put it? (which rooms, lifestyle, family members, pets etc)???
What are the most important performance characteristics to you? (think about it). What sort of local environment & climate is it? What colour or shade are you considering? Do you have budget restrictions? Bottom line is... EVERY FLOORCOVERING SHOULD BE CHOSEN FOR ITS SPECIFIC PURPOSE. No carpet is perfect in every case. Ash. Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 3Nov 24, 2007 6:47 pm Where are you going to put it? (which rooms, lifestyle, family members, pets etc)???
It will go in all the bedrooms, formal lounge and some hallways. What are the most important performance characteristics to you? (think about it). Quality and durability. What sort of local environment & climate is it? We're in Melbourne living in the burbs, no kids but have pets who shed quite a bit of hair. The dogs will only be allowed in the living room which has no carpet. What colour or shade are you considering? Chocolate brown (will it even show stains?) Do you have budget restrictions? To a degree but we are prepared to pay for good quality carpet. Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 4Nov 24, 2007 7:21 pm OK
Suggest you go not too dark in shade. Based on your info, I'd suggest an 80/20 wool/nylon mix or 100% wool, with a minimum of heavy-duty residential, preferably extra heavy duty rated. Suggest a heavy weight (dense pile) carpet, but not too thick. Go at least 35oz. Look also at the secondary backings (the woven jute material on the bottom of the carpet. Better quality carpets will have more tightly woven backings that are heavier and more stiff, compared to the cheaper, more open weave backing materials. Cavalier Bremworth are a nice brand, but there are heaps of good others. New Zealand wool rich carpets are a good choice. Its fair to pay at least $200 per linear metre. Next question... do you prefer loop-pile or cut pile carpets? Ash. Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 6Nov 24, 2007 8:58 pm OK
Cut pile wool carpets will usually exhibit a degree of permanent pile reversal (also called pooling, shading or water-marking). This is not a fault, but a characteristic you should be aware of. As the carpet settles in, the pile can lay in different directions, and light will be absorbed or reflected depending on pile direction. So it can look like a random difference in shade. If that possibility bothers you, a loop-pile may be be preferable. If not, fine! Note also, that there are some techniques used by some manufacturers to minimize shading. It usually involves varying the direction of the twist in the carpet yarns to keep the pile set, so it maintains its appearance. Also, you should expect that a wool carpet will shed some excess fibre, especially when new. This will diminish over time. If this bothers you, a nylon carpet may suit you better. Wool carpets will wear and thin out over time, but keep looking good with appropriate care. Nylons by comparison will not wear much, but traffic ways will become discoloured over time. Whilst they are more forgiving in terms of stain & chemical resistance, nylons don't have as good appearance retention as the wool-rich carpets. BTW, there are some magnificent quality woven wool carpets if you want something really special! Ash. Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 7Nov 25, 2007 9:50 am BTW, there are some magnificent quality woven wool carpets if you want something really special!
Ash.[/quote] Thanks again, Ash. I'm intrigued - what makes these so special? And do they cost the earth? Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 8Nov 25, 2007 12:34 pm This is one example, an English wilton carpet.
http://www.brintons.net/residential/uk/ ... petDetails Carpets such as axminsters and wiltons are traditional carpets that are woven on looms. Each tuft is woven in as the carpet is manufactured one row at a time. Woven carpets are produced much more slowly, but the finished product is extremely durable, and often will last 30-40 years in a home. Most woven carpets are seen in 5 star hotels, as well as many old pubs where they have been for years. Also, a lot of cinema complexes have brightly patterned axminsters installed. Manufacturers of woven carpets tend to also be highly selective with their choice of yarn quality. Most carpets sold these days are tufted. Tufted carpets are mass produced in mills at high volume. A plastic woven backing passes through large needle bars where the pile is stitched in, and then a secondary backing is glued to the underside. There's nothing wrong with tufted carpet, but it doesn't have quite the range of possibilities as woven carpets. Woven carpets tend to cost around $350> per linear metre, or around $100> per square metre. They are more expensive due to the whole market dynamics, as well as being much slower to produce. But they are superb quality carpets to have and enjoy. I'll see if I can dig up some more links. Ash. Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 9Nov 25, 2007 12:46 pm http://www.brintons.net/residential/uk/ ... bell+twist
A superb quality carpet! And here is the Australian made Brinton's Bell Twist. Note that you can visit the mill and see what makes these carpets so special, if you are from Melbourne (I think in Geelong). http://www.brintons.com.au/www/resident ... .htm#kudos Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 10Nov 25, 2007 2:40 pm I just love the Espana in this pic!
http://www.brintons.com.au/www/resident ... ential.htm I know most people tend to avoid patterned carpets, but (to my taste) that carpet is just allllll class. Love dramatic and visually engaging decor! It just stands out in a world where everyone else is so conservative and bloody boring. If I had several million to play with, I'd build a dramatic art deco home, (and break all the rules of convention)! Ash (on his soapbox again). Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 13Nov 27, 2007 12:07 pm Thanks Ash, another one for the favourites - this is very useful information and now I can't wait to choose my carpet!! I will impress everyone with all my knowledge! Ruth -Bought house in Melbourne inner burbs, knocked it down & now...we are owner builders! Completed OB project and moved in to our new home with our new baby in May 2009! Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 14Dec 09, 2007 3:26 pm Well, thanks again for your help, Ash. As tempted as we were by the Brinton, we put down a deposit today for Beacon 80/20 milo-coloured carpet from Maceys. I can't find any examples online, otherwise I'd post a pic. Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 15Dec 09, 2007 3:56 pm Mikita Well, thanks again for your help, Ash. As tempted as we were by the Brinton, we put down a deposit today for Beacon 80/20 milo-coloured carpet from Maceys. I can't find any examples online, otherwise I'd post a pic. Enjoy! Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 16Dec 09, 2007 4:51 pm Wow I love the look of some of those Brintons carpets
Does anyone know if there is a place that would sell off cuts of patterned carpet? We only want to do our media room which is about 5mx4m but did not want to spend a fortune. Someone told us there is carpet auctions where we might be able to pick something like this up cheaply?! Re: Nylon versus 80/20 carpet? 17Dec 09, 2007 5:06 pm Yes, there may be. Keep your ear to the ground for 'warehouse sales' in your area. Maybe call Brintons to find local stockists or commercial contract suppliers. As they are mostly installed in large commercial contracts, there are often over-runs and remnants, so if you are in touch with the suppliers to these contracts, you can pick up a bargain. It can be a bit hit-n-miss though. Good luck!
Years ago, I bought a number of rolls of the most magnificent Feltex NZ wool woven carpets from a store that was closing down. They had lots of various types. I bought them about a year before we built, and have since laid most of them at home. Ten + years later, they look as good as day 1. I paid $10 per square metre for carpets that would normally have cost $110. Ash. 1 11005 1 15753 they can, it's a fairly standard solution when the slab isn't recessed. the falls need to be in the main floor, if it hasn't been done then you need to ask them to redo… 4 6589 |