Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 101May 03, 2010 8:31 pm Bozza, no advice, but just have a look at the 2 amounts (original and this new), as well as their corresponding sizes (area to cover). If you're saying they forgot 1/2 of the cost, isn't it then very easy - the cost should go up by about ... 100%?? Was the orig quote 2k??? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 102May 03, 2010 10:01 pm hi lex, no i meant i calculated they got the area by x sqm and they say i have to pay 1.75x sqm... does that make any sense? basically i measure approx 39sqm and they had calculated 33 originally ( i never bothered doing more than a cursory check thinking they would measure properly) plus are claiming an additional 3 plus additional 2 for the staircase. i have told them that i will be ok with the 6m additional to cover the error but not the 11 they are claiming. there seems to be lots of wastage and also the stair guy seems to have used heaps as he didn't know the stairs were curved. i'm not intending to pay for wastage etc Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 103May 04, 2010 1:21 pm Bozza hi lex, no i meant i calculated they got the area by x sqm and they say i have to pay 1.75x sqm... does that make any sense? basically i measure approx 39sqm and they had calculated 33 originally ( i never bothered doing more than a cursory check thinking they would measure properly) plus are claiming an additional 3 plus additional 2 for the staircase. i have told them that i will be ok with the 6m additional to cover the error but not the 11 they are claiming. there seems to be lots of wastage and also the stair guy seems to have used heaps as he didn't know the stairs were curved. i'm not intending to pay for wastage etc Underquoting is a standard way to hook customers. In an original quote I had from a "professional" they quoted us something 60 m2 less than we had in reality.. Yeah, we all people and all make mistakes but I wouldn't feel comfortable if I had to come up with extra funds to cover the discrepancy... Sunk costs bias is a significant one and a rare person will resist from adding 10K on top of 30K that already has been spent especially when there are $300 to return the shipment and who knows how many weeks of delay to find another supplier etc, etc, etc.... Regarding wastage - 5-8% is the "industry standard". I believe it is fair to pay for the material while labour should be in sync with the actual area laid. Well, I'm not paying per m2 anyhow. ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 104May 04, 2010 5:08 pm OK, we were told by one company that they only drop the timber in the front yard, if they can and if they have access with the crane. They just use crane, one man job. Then we have to carry it into the house ... Does this sound right?? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 105May 04, 2010 6:41 pm Yes for me... 4800 linear metres of internal floor. 65 sheets of plywood.... Some amount of decking boards gym...gym... gym... ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 109May 05, 2010 9:42 pm yes they finish tomorrow so will post before and after shots. they are LATE. they promised to finish sat pm but will finish thurs pm - last coat will go on 7.30-10.30 tomorrow then 3h drying time so hubby and I will clean all afternoon then move in on Fri am. thank goodness we were able to move booking to Fri from original Thurs booking. there seems to be dust trapped on the second coat - is this normal? they said they will lightly "buff" before the last coat but we are going out there at 8am tommorrow to show them what we mean. Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 110May 06, 2010 9:27 am Hmmm ... don't know about the dust ... but we do have some resident experts here who could help out with their comment ... Anyway, moving in so soon after coating? Hopefully you're only planning to move the stuff into a garage or anywhere else but the floors?? Don't want to alarm you, but please be very careful. I would never listen to their advice "you can move in after 24 hours", it's not enough curing time, it's only enough so you can walk over the floor in socks. When we sanded and polished our old floors, we put some paint protection fabric on the floors several days later (like 5 days or something like that) - they left tiny fabric pattern embedded in the floor polish/coating!!! And I can only imagine what furnniture (and removalists) would do! My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 111May 06, 2010 1:09 pm You need to allow 3 wks for the coat once finished to cure. It'll still be soft. Lex is right. I'm not sure about the dust-there shouldn't be any and if they cleaned the floor properly between coats this certainly shouldn't happen. Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 112May 07, 2010 10:27 pm What type of plywood is installed under the solid timber boards? I found some mysterious "code names" such as Plywood CD, Plywood Formply, Plywood T&G, Plywood T&G dd grade ... which one ?!?! These floors are driving me nuts My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 113May 08, 2010 11:48 am Is the plywood also T&G-ed?? Anyway, found this useful file http://www.timber.org.au/resources/%7B39571D69-9A81-4AA7-98A8-96D11D5CE34E%7D_1-%20Solid%20Timber%20Flooring%20&%20Floor%20Finishes.pdf My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 114May 14, 2010 7:48 pm OK, I'll continue talking to myself here ... Looks like there are flat edge plywoods and also t&g ones and it seems like it's up to the installer which one they get for you. (Right?) Two Qs, if anyone bothers What's fair cost of installation of skirting boards (just the installation itself, no painting or supply)? Did anyone have any problems with using foam / rubber thin 2mm underlay between the particle board floors and the t&g flooring (on first floor)? A few of people we talked to are saying this underlay just interferes with full timber floors My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 115May 14, 2010 9:06 pm Lex OK, I'll continue talking to myself here ... Looks like there are flat edge plywoods and also t&g ones and it seems like it's up to the installer which one they get for you. (Right?) Two Qs, if anyone bothers What's fair cost of installation of skirting boards (just the installation itself, no painting or supply)? Did anyone have any problems with using foam / rubber thin 2mm underlay between the particle board floors and the t&g flooring (on first floor)? A few of people we talked to are saying this underlay just interferes with full timber floors Hmm just went through our quotes and they just say plywood, from memory he said it was just standard sheets so i'd assume not t&g for the plywood. Then it gets bolted to the slab at x bolts per square meter (cant recall the figure). They also quoted $7 per meter for removal and refitting of our skirting boards seeing as the builder won't leave them off. Its at our risk and cost to replace if any are damaged and for the cost of skirtings i'm not that concerned, we're just happy we found someone actually willing to remove them at all rather than just putting in beading. Can't help you though on the second story question as we're single only. 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Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 118May 20, 2010 8:42 pm Oh, so they also need room for expansion !?! I heard that 12mm ply is going to be 'outlawed' as underlay, I mean they will supposedly make it that the 15mm is the min standard ... do you know of any such industry news ? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & Floor SANDING 119Aug 24, 2010 10:55 am namtrak Buff and polish (this is called a maintenance coat) is generally around $15 per sqm or about $975. ... .... The Synteko water based product is an industry standard, although I use the Bona products personally. So, there seems to be a very clear difference between "sanding" and "buffing"? How do you define each - by the type of machine you use and also by the roughness of the sanding paper used?? Or something else? You seem to Bona oveer Synteko - does any one of these give you a more tough and stronger finish? Although they probably still can't compare with the strength of the solvent based finishes? My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Which type of Timber Flooring & best suited Underlay 120Aug 24, 2010 11:32 am I guess the terminology can differ between operators but generally speaking. Sanding is referring to sanding with a paper of some sort wether with a belt sander or finish sander. Buffing is referring to sanding with a screen grit (150+ generally) using a finish sander. The buffing removes raised grain and bits of grit between coats to ensure a smooth finish. Buffing also aids with binding between coats. As for Bona/Synteko - I just find the Bona product a good one to use. At the risk of sounding like an advertisement it is non-toxic (my personal reason for putting it down), it is non-yellowing, it is the worlds most popular floor finish, the technical support is unparalleled and it gives me some flexibility when staining floors as well. With the advent of Traffic I'm not sure that the solvent based finishes can unreservedly still lay claim to the hardest sealers anymore Natural stone tiles like slate, travertine, and limestone add a timeless, elegant look to… 0 24387 Engineering timber is certainly a less fuss option, times cheaper to supply and install and better withstands humidity. 1 15907 Hi l plan to install a self adhesive vinyl plank floor. l first need to attach masonite boards underlay to by plywood subfloor of my house. What size nails and how many… 0 8370 |