Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 Feb 10, 2010 6:12 pm I am about to buy a solid timber floor 13mm thick that will be direct stuck to a concrete floor in a new house, I am in Perth Western Australia I was wondering if anyone can advise a ball park figure for the installation costs including sanding and finishing Peter Re: timber flooring 3Feb 11, 2010 1:02 pm that fits with my info too, i had been told about $75 per sqm Re: timber flooring 4Feb 15, 2010 12:31 pm I was told $25 per m2 finished (labour only). However, I'm hiring a timber guy on an hourly rate and the cost to install will be quite negligible (a total of $2000 for 350 m2 of timber to be installed). ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: timber flooring 5Feb 15, 2010 1:01 pm ebyelyakov I was told $25 per m2 finished (labour only). However, I'm hiring a timber guy on an hourly rate and the cost to install will be quite negligible (a total of $2000 for 350 m2 of timber to be installed). Either the hourly rate your paying is very low or this bloke you are hiring has a "S" on his shirt to represent his super powers. 350meters of timber will take a long time to install. Re: timber flooring 6Feb 15, 2010 1:11 pm I agree with the last comment, the price of $25 per metre or $2,000 to do 350 sqm seems unrealistically low, personally i would be very suspicious Re: timber flooring 7Feb 15, 2010 2:28 pm Yeah, as one said, people will always find an excuse for either paying to much or too little My approach is doing research and shopping around definitely helps - otherwise I would be installing blackbutt at $70 per m2 plus $20 labour instead of installing Grey Ironbark at $42 per m2 and an hourly rate. $60 per hour is a average rate and installing 350 m2 for two men (I charge myself zero for work I do for myself) over the course of four days, excluding sanding and coating sounds reasonable. Indeed, should it take longer, -- it will. The guy was recommended by a colleague of mine who was using him to install timber floor at his home a while ago, so the reference check was quite successful. ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: timber flooring 8Feb 15, 2010 2:35 pm yes 70 for blackbutt would be too expensive but then 42 for iron back does sound quiet cheap. Again almost to cheap. Hope you dont have too much wastage. Regarding install 4 days for two people sound like you will not have enough time to do the job properly.What method are you going to use to install the timber? Re: timber flooring 9Feb 15, 2010 2:49 pm borg yes 70 for blackbutt would be too expensive but then 42 for iron back does sound quiet cheap. Again almost to cheap. Hope you dont have too much wastage. Regarding install 4 days for two people sound like you will not have enough time to do the job properly.What method are you going to use to install the timber? As stated before, if it takes longer, it takes longer - not a big drama, however, I see no reason for this. The installation method downstairs will be secret nailing to a plywood subfloor installed on top of a moisture barrier. Upstairs is just to the floor, probably will deploy an acoustic underlay to minimise sound penetration from upstairs. Re wastage I do not quite get what you mean - I'm not ordering the timber from China. Before making the final decision I went to the vendor and checked their stock. Quality of timber is irrelevant to its grade (grade is visual characteristics only) and is defined by a relevant Australian Standard (do not remember the number). Trust me, if I were a sales consultant I'd sell you completely different story because my commission would be the central idea behind it. ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: timber flooring 10Feb 15, 2010 3:47 pm Wastage refers to what needs to be thrown away due to being to small(off Cuts) or peiece that cant be used because it is severely twisted for example, or in some cases is too light or too in comparison to all the other pieces. 60 Dollars actually seems expensive. But like you say it comes down to how efficiently you use this time. Also you talk about acoustic underlay for the 2nd story. How will this work. Does this mean you will only secret nail the timber without using glue? Re: timber flooring 11Feb 15, 2010 4:13 pm borg Wastage refers to what needs to be thrown away due to being to small(off Cuts) or peiece that cant be used because it is severely twisted for example, or in some cases is too light or too in comparison to all the other pieces. 60 Dollars actually seems expensive. But like you say it comes down to how efficiently you use this time. Also you talk about acoustic underlay for the 2nd story. How will this work. Does this mean you will only secret nail the timber without using glue? Hm. 75 per m2 is OK while 60 per hour expensive? It probably depends on time it is going to take.. However, to install my floor at $75 it will be equal to 437 hours of labour @60 p.h. I increased the standard 5% - 7% for wastage and budgeted 10%. I'm not intending to use glue at all - there are contradicting opinions in research materials on the subject. Please take a look at the section 8.2.4 for example. of the attached publication. There is a reason I decided to use 90mm boards instead of 130mm http://rapidshare.com/files/350807362/P ... Report.pdf I have not selected a specific underlay yet - it is a bit too early for me (still about 16 weeks before the handover) and I might source it straight from the timber guy. ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: timber flooring 12Feb 15, 2010 9:07 pm i think 75 per square is expensive too. Note i tried to download your file but not working on my pc. Your Comments are interesting and I woul like to hear how you go. I installed over 100 square meters of blackbutt and to get it the way I wanted took ages. We pet stapples every 300mm used 17mm ply and used glue, yet almost a year after install I can tap the floor and hear hollow spots. But it is still relatively solid and just feels great. Grey iron Bark is going to be even harder to install and I have heard storeys of people having to clamp each board. Re: timber flooring 13Feb 16, 2010 9:22 am borg Try to google on "how to download from rapidshare" - the service has some limitations for free users and will want you to wait a minute or so before letting to download the file. Unfortunately this forum does not allow attaching PDF files. Alternatively, PM me your email and I will email the document to you. I doubt that pet stapling Iron Bark is possible due to its hardness and using nails every 30 cm or so is the plan. I'm going to use 18mm plywood as the subfloor.. Will be happy to share my experience as I've acquired it. Still a few months to go ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: timber flooring 15Feb 16, 2010 11:12 am borg I couldnt d/l the file from your location but googles it and found it anway. Too long to read now but lots of info. Considering the charge consultants have for their knowledge investing a few hours of my own time to read the document did not look that bad even if I were "charging" myself at $250 per hour ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: timber flooring 17Mar 16, 2010 2:54 pm Lex Just "attaching" myself to this thread So if I'm reading this correctly E, are you planning to use 18mm ply under the boards even on the top floor? nope, why would I ? The SS said they would sand the top floor making it level.. I'm thinking to install a 3mm acoustic underlay upstairs.. maybe ... built a Promenade with Clarendon. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25104 20-10-09 - excavation and piering completed ... 12-04-10 - Basins fixed. Connecting to the electrical grid 23-04-10 - PCI 07-05-10 - HANDOVER! Re: timber flooring 18Mar 16, 2010 3:06 pm I think costs can vary greatly between cities. I know Sydney have some very cheap rates, whereas Canberra is quite expensive. Likewise, direct stick to concrete is cheaper in Perth because it much more common there than in the Eastern states. Very loosely. To install a 80mm by 19mm floor direct to joists around $55/60 per sqm ex: timber flooring itself To install a 80mm by 19mm floor onto ply, around $75/85 per sqm ex: timber flooring Direct stick 80mm by 19mm floor onto concrete, around $95/100 per sqm ex; timber flooring. These figures though are ridiculously rubbery. Sort of things that can effect the price either way: Lots of small rooms. Wider boards vs narrow boards. Fiddly corners and cutting. Waterproofing of concrete. City of installation. Do you need the job done out of schedule? Are you helping (or hindering). The mood of the quoter. etc I always recommend people do two things as a minimum: Get multiple quotes and check out previous work of their preferred contractor. Engineering timber is certainly a less fuss option, times cheaper to supply and install and better withstands humidity. 1 15924 1000000% definitely add insulation. I have in my home and it makes a big difference minimising sound transfer. Insulation is pretty cheap and definitely worth it 2 6212 Hi there, I'm a conplete newbie to this, but I'm looking to put a floor down in my 6x9m shed. It's currently sitting on a 100mm thick concrete perimeter (dirt floor… 0 6469 |