Browse Forums Flooring & Floor Covering 1 Aug 12, 2009 12:16 pm Hi, I have done some searches but found this topic hasn't really been discussed. So, I hope someone may have some opinions on this... I am looking at solution dyed nylon carpet. I am wondering if I should choose between 50oz vs 70oz carpets. I believe thicker the better, right? But how much better is it, given we will choose a good quality underlay in either case. Also, one carpet company made some comments about problems with tracking and flattening and suggested us to go with wool. For around 100sqm, I was quoted $8000 for 70oz, and $5500 for 50oz. So, it is quite a different price-wise. Thanks! Building Clarendon Brighton - Done and moved in Sept 2009 Re: Solution dyed nylon carpet density 2Aug 12, 2009 11:31 pm I'm happy to be shown to be wrong, but SDN carpets of that weight??? I'd be very surprised! Most wool carpets are not even that heavy. Thicker the better?..... WRONG. More dense is better, but not necessarily thicker. If a carpet has very deep pile, there is more pile length which can settle in traffic ways, and you end up with a lot of height differential, even gullies in traffic ways. What makes you say you want SDN carpets? What are the qualities and characteristics that you most want in the carpets you choose? Ash. Re: Solution dyed nylon carpet density 3Aug 12, 2009 11:43 pm eho, we have this carpet - http://www.beaulieu.com.au/bolyu_produc ... tial&id=70 We have the top underlay, the carpet is lovely and soft and feels thick underfoot. I spent months looking at carpets and am really pleased with what we have. Carpet is such a hard decision Happy at Home Re: Solution dyed nylon carpet density 4Aug 13, 2009 1:08 am HTB, I'm pleased that you are pleased! Just looked at your carpet and some others on that site. Most of the SDN carpets are around 24-26oz, some about 36oz and yes, some are up to 50oz! Performance of each carpet comes down to a number of specifications and factors. The yarn type, its denier and characteristics, construction style (cut, loop, how densely it is tufted etc) and all sorts of things. The variations can be mind-boggling! Carpet weight specs refers to the measured weight of the carpet (45oz is the weight of one square yard). The weight may be 45oz because they have crammed a heap of yarn into the area (density) or it may be a less dense carpet that has much longer (deeper) pile. My general advice is to choose carpets that are more DENSE and lower in profile if you want durability and good service life. In most cases, extremely thick carpets will cost a lot more because there is more yarn, but it won't give any better performance than an average thickness equivalent. So unless you just really like the thick one and are happy to spend the extra $, I question the value in doing so. One benefit of super thick carpets is it will increase its insulating value, (say in very cold climates). Ash. Re: Solution dyed nylon carpet density 5Aug 13, 2009 10:14 am Thanks very much for your reply! Ash, indeed you are right. I should look at how dense they are. I will take a closer look at them this weekend. In regards to your comments... Quote: I'm happy to be shown to be wrong, but SDN carpets of that weight??? I'd be very surprised! Are you suggesting there is no such dense 70oz carpet? and the carpet guy was talking crap? He also suggested to use the airstep blue for the underlay. It is thicker than Prime. I have read your posts about Prime and ideal thickness and such. Will the underlay thickness be more significant if the carpet is denser?? The reason I go for SDN is because I have a 2 year-old. I believe SDN is better in terms of cleaning and removing stains?? Wool is generally more expensive and shed. I know there are a lot of pro-wool people around here. Please correct me if I have been misled totally HTB, I am also looking at a carpert from beaulieu...http://www.beaulieu.com.au/bolyu_produc ... tial&id=35 Looking at your carpet fibre type, it is Perma Soft Plus. Is this a more "advance" SDN?? Building Clarendon Brighton - Done and moved in Sept 2009 Re: Solution dyed nylon carpet density 6Aug 13, 2009 10:45 am Eho, Its fine if you like SDN carpets, and among them, Bealieu carpets are very good. I'd suggest you go no heavier than about 36oz though. Here's one http://www.beaulieu.com.au/bolyu_produc ... ntial&id=6 This is abou 9mm thick, and will perform easily as well as a 50oz carpet that is more like 13.5mm thick. Manufacturers do all sorts of things. I've never encountered a 70 oz nylon, but if you have, you have. The Bridgestone Blue is often specified with heavy weight carpet, but I'd still recommend Prime underlay in preference. Its hard to keep up with all the fancy names manufacturers come up with! Perma-soft is one of them. Ask the manufacturer about the characteristics of the various names they make up. Chances are "Perma-soft" is extruded finer to give a softer 'hand' but the compounds are the same as other SDN yarns. There's all sorts of variations they can make. All fibres and carpet styles have pros and cons. One variation of nylon yarn that is known to perform exceptionally well is the Antron Lumena yarn. It is often used in commercial SDN carpets and has much better performance characteristics than most SDN yarns. Might not be as soft as some though. Ash. Hi We are building in the Hunter Valley, our soil test is H1, our builder has advised us they need to have a letter signed for Fair Trading as the new drainage standard… 0 3550 Sorry! I'm new to this forum and have made a mistake in my posting! I'm looking for a structural solution to a stand alone wooden pickets fence with no structural rail… 1 3290 1 11004 |