May 24, 2007 3:38 pm
I'm in need of a new vacuum cleaner. It is just my personal preference to have an upright vacuum (but it can not have a turbo head built into it) and it needs to be able to go from wool carpet to tiles.
Does anyone have any recommendations as to what's good and what's not.
I have been thinking about the Dyson origin, but I have heard some negative reports about Dyson's performance and am a little reluctant.
Also has anyone had experience with those little robotic vacuum/steam cleaners? Seen them at the VIC homeshow recently and am curious to know how they perform. Especially the one that cleans your tiles for you.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner2
May 24, 2007 3:50 pm
Would also be interested in anyone's experiences with a Dyson...we were thinking about one and have heard very mixed reports about them...seems people have either loved or hated theirs.
Built Porter Davis "Dromana" 2007.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner3
May 24, 2007 4:38 pm
I absolutely love my Dyson - have an upright.
The latest Choice mag rated vacuums and the recommended ones were:
BOSCH Ergomaxx Hepa BSG82030AU
NILFISK X300 Extreme
SAMSUNG Twin Chamber Silver Nano SC8571 (discontinued)
The Dyson has it's quirks - but when we purchased it 5 yrs ago, there was nothing on the market that had such great suction power.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner4
May 24, 2007 4:46 pm
Personally I like in built in units, but last time I bought a standup vac I bought a Pullman industrial style vac for the same price as a little dyson or similar but loads more power.
I reckon you pay more for the glitzy nice looking robot models, but do they do a better job???
Hmm the commercial cleaners don't use them do they? And they have a much heavier dust load than most homes I'd say.
But I'll leave my judgement till Ash (RoyalBlue) gets this thread.
He has his opinions on VC's
Re: Vacuum Cleaner5
May 24, 2007 5:42 pm
Dyson all the way. I vacuumed our old house before we moved using the 1600 watt vac we had. I picked up the new Dyson the next day and gave it a test run. I was really really shocked at how much crap the Dyson picked up. Also I dont sneeze anymore when I clean.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner6
May 24, 2007 6:24 pm
I don't know from experience (we have an electrolux) but I've read/heard that the little robo-vacs are as good as useless. If you can see how small they are you can judge exactly how much stuff they could suck up... equivalent to a dust buster.
Second Time 'Round
Re: Vacuum Cleaner7
May 24, 2007 6:58 pm
I love love love our Dyson !!!!!!
Their after sales service is awesome too. When The plug came off they sent a courier to pick up the vac adn had it couriered back two days later.
I cannot sing their praises highly enough.
We have the DC08. Bought it from Retravision and got $150 knocked off the RRP on the spot.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner8
May 24, 2007 8:26 pm
I’m impressed you guys do the vacuuming!!!!
Anyone for hire?
I have a Polly carpet….fortunately I don’t need a really good vacuum cleaner.
Nothing gets past the top the layer, in fact it repels, NOW I do need a really good DUSTER!
Re: Vacuum Cleaner9
May 24, 2007 10:25 pm
Dysons suck! (Vacuum cleaner joke )
They are great for large flat areas. But too complicated if you want to use the other attachements. If you want to clean the upholstery, you have to pull out hoses, turn them around, plug them the other way, etc.
They are too bulky to clean under the kids beds.
We have the upright jobbie. Maybe other models are more user friendly.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner10
May 24, 2007 10:47 pm
Horses for courses..... what do you want the vacuum to do?
Might seem obvious, but really, you have to consider what sort of surfaces you want it to work on, and a few other pertinent factors.
Do you have a budget? Can you stretch it a bit further than you think you want to spend? What sort of property is it needed for? Single or 2 storey? What kind of floorcoverings do you have?
To respond to some of the other comments;
Firstly Michelle, I oughtta put you over my knee and spank you! Don't need a good vac.....NONSENSE!!!! I'll deal with you later!
I use a Dyson DC04 Constantmax (a commercial upright model) for almost every job in my carpet cleaning business, and another one at home. So do countless other carpet cleaning technicians. They are very effective vacuums, and they amaze my customers consistently with its ability to pull dirt & grit out of a carpet that the average vac leaves behind. Dysons have a cyclonic canister that separates particulates from the air by centrifugal force, instead of a filter bag. This is a major benefit, as bags strangle airflow as soon as they start filling up. By the time the vac bag in average vacs is half full, it will restrict the airflow by about 80%>. So if your vac has a bag, it is VERY OLD TECHNOLOGY. Many modern vacs try to emulate the Dyson concept, but usually not very well. So, you could do a lot worse than getting a Dyson. Only buy a HEPA model though.
Yes there is negative feed-back about Dysons. Keep in mind that they are the world's largest selling vacuums, so there's plenty of people with them, and not everyone will be happy. The main downside is they are a bit plasticky. Various plastic bits can break if not treated carefully. The upside is the parts are dirt-cheap and service & back-up is excellent.
IMPORTANCE OF HEPA;
High Efficiency Particulate Air filtration is ESSENTIAL in my opinion. Indoor air quality is compromised with anything less. If you turn a vac on and a bad smell fills the room, the vac is spewing out bacteria & allergens and is unhealthy.
UPRIGHTS ARE BEST FOR CARPETS;
Carpets (including Michelle's) collect and hold sand, dust, dirt and allergens. After a while, this works its way deeper down into the carpet, and suction alone will NOT remove this. The agitation provided by a revolving bristle powerhead is required to open up the pile and release this stuff into the airstream so it is vacuumed up.
DUCTED VAC SYSTEMS;
Without going into lots of detail, a well designed integrated ducted vac system can be an excellent investment, and help to keep your home cleaner and healthier.
So, there's a bit of info for you! Come back and let me know your needs, and I can probably give you some more specific advice.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner11
May 24, 2007 11:27 pm
Ash.....I can't wait!!!
But seriously… I have a vac that cost me $400 and that’s all I’m prepared to pay for a vac for a Poly carpet. The vac sucks really well or I would not have bought it.
I only buy good quality anything! But I’m sorry, I draw the line at the Dyson….as I feel it is way over priced! Ok for commercial use as you will use it for, but for the average home which has half tile or timber flooring and the other half carpet, I do not see the need!
I know where you are coming from ….carpet tech….. But as a house wife, me ….oh poo on that! And a really particular person in the home, I just don’t see the need…..FOR MYSELF that is, not for others.
You do need to know your carpet to understand it’s needs!!!!
Ash is right with his info, but I take myself…… 2 & ½ years selling flooring ….to know a little more than average.
But I’m up for the spanking!!!!!
Re: Vacuum Cleaner12
May 24, 2007 11:39 pm
I LOVE my Dyson and my Roomba, in fact when we build, I'll have to get a Scooba (the floor washing/tile washing robot)
Basically the Roomba (the little UFO styled robot) cleans every day, that way I only have to do a big vaccum every couple of weeks, we have an indoor cat and timber floors so the Roomba just keeps the fur level down.....
The Dyson is just fabulous, and I was shocked to actually think "what can I vaccum next" just to keep using it (although that did wear off after a while) but it is still a great machine.....
Re: Vacuum Cleaner16
May 25, 2007 9:14 am
I am a fanatical cleaner and am prepared to pay what is needed to deliver the best results.
I have a single storey home which is half carpet/half tiles so I want something that has the ability to manage both surfaces.
Hope this helps - and thanks to everyone else for the input and feedback!!
Re: Vacuum Cleaner17
May 25, 2007 11:37 am
Fanatical cleaner eh.......... got some news for you..............
It can be better to vacuum LESS than you are inclined to. Yet that's right! I've been meaning to write up a bit of info about how to impliment an effective vacuuming program, so watch out for it.
OK back to your choices for vacuums....
As I said before, a well-designed modern ducted vac system can be a really great choice, as it means you don't have to worry about the exhaust air quality-it should all be exhausted outside. This means dust & allergens aren't recirculated as you vacuum. BUT, this is best built into a house from new. They often can be retrofitted, but that can be messy and costly. If you'd like, you could get a contractor to see what it'd take to fit.
I'm out of time now, and will come back to give you the blurb on other vac options.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner18
May 25, 2007 12:34 pm
We are getting carpet put in our new house so I am very interested in this topic. I am also questioning whether Dyson really is the be all and end all (but I'm a sucker and will probably end up with one!).
Ash - I know you say uprights are better but we have a double storey house and have carpet on our stairs and I assume that it will be quite a feat to use an upright on stairs. Is a non-upright with a turbo head the best option for stairs?
Re: Vacuum Cleaner19
May 25, 2007 12:46 pm
Just a quick mention of one source of negative info about Dysons.....
There is a national network of vacuum stores that are known to actively 'bag' Dysons. Why?.... you be the judge, but I'd suggest its because they don't sell or service them. Dyson have a strict service network, and only allow their vacs to be serviced by their approved service outlets. The particular stores that sell a range if other vacs are not approved to service Dyson, so they have no interest in them, and sell against Dyson. I suggest that anything that they say about Dysons can be taken with a grain of salt.
Re: Vacuum Cleaner20
May 25, 2007 1:09 pm
This designer says yes to the Dyson as one of the best designed and functional machines in the mobile domestic cleaning range.
We have owned the DC11 for a year now and I have never had cause to regret my purchase or complain about the product.
Like some others, we thoroughly vacuumed the carpeted sections of our house with the old "Vampyr" before going over it with the new Dyson using the Turbo Power Head.
The little monster was almost full after two rooms!
Dyson spent almost fifteen years developing that machine and it shows in the details.
The extraction and collection method are superb - I have a chronic condition that responds very badly to dust, amongst other things, and the HEPA filter is an excellent feature.
The machine can be taken apart to almost its fundamental componants to allow thorough cleaning - which is not something I have found in another design.
Even the torbo head can be pulled apart to get all of the accumulated fibres and hairs out of the roller sysytem.
Yes the Dyson is more expensive than a lot of other machines, but to my mind you definitely get what you pay for in this instance.
Forget about even going near the cheap knockoffs - give the man the credit (and solvency) he is due!
Maximum points from me - I am only jealous that I didn't design it...
Bachelor of Industrial Design, UC.
Struming Design - Industrial Design
Kitchen Design; Kitchen Supply; DIY Kitchens
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