Browse Forums Buying Land 1 Apr 29, 2015 9:11 am Hi All, Does anyone know what is going on with Stage 36 at somerfield estate Keysborough? There seems to be delays after delays and for months now there has been no development while stage 44 which started at the same time is in full swing and ready for title very soon. This is annoying as I am almost ready to build and my conveyancer, building company and the bank are all sitting around waiting. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 2Apr 29, 2015 11:09 pm Hi future neighbour We are also waiting for the land to get titled on 36, we are also ready to start building asap. Last we heard from the developer they told us there was a delay due to council issues but they should be resolved by the end of April and then construction of roads etc would be done by end of May, for the titles to follow in June. When we booked the block in 2014, even though it stated to be titled in April 2015, our builder told us to expect at least 2 months delay, so we had a mindset for June anyway, we just hope it doesn't get delayed more than that. I'll go have another look this weekend and ask what the update is. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 4Apr 30, 2015 8:27 pm Hey guys, we put a hold on a land, stage 17C. waiting 2 months and no engineering plan yet. They want us to sign section 32 without it. I'm kind of iffy about it. No other estate does this. Should I sign it anyway and deal with talking to builders after title? Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 5Apr 30, 2015 9:50 pm Hi blue_destiny. With stage 36 it was similar. We paid some money to put it on hold and then was asked to sign Section 32 and that we only had 7 days to sign in when they told us. I did have a copy of the engineering plans which were not approved at the time of signing so like you it was a gamble. I spoke to Danny at land office and took his word that it would be alright. Anyway, if you dont sign, you will lose the land but still, it sounded very shifty they way they do it. But unfortunately it is not illegal to operate like this so what can you do really. I really hope the counsel don't delay it any further. I really need to start building by September the latest. But oh well...fingers crossed. Also I heard that our street is going to be cabled up by Opticomm for Broadband and not NBN. To me that is a concern because if there are any issues with opticomm then we're screwed. NBN is different because it is protected by the TIO and the government and any complaints or issues are dealt with accordingly. Sorry i work in IT so i know a little about all this. But i was wondering if NBN will still be able to operate as an alternative. Does anyone know? Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 6May 01, 2015 12:04 am Hi Mozzzy, How do you know which street will be opticomm and which NBN? Regarding the estate I don't know what we can do really, even if the titles are ready in July we are still ok, but Danny sounded funny on the phone today, he was saying they don't even know when this issue will be solved, they are only guessing now. So it could be 2 months, it could be a year, who knows. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 7May 01, 2015 9:02 am Hi Aragorn, When we signed the contract, Danny told us that all new stages will be Opticomm because (at the time) they had issues with NBN so signed up opticomm instead. I must say that he is right in a way that NBN had major issues last year and was mainly due to the fact that all contracts became invalid when Liberals took over and hence they were not doing much work at all and were very disorganised with no direction until re-negotiations with Telstra, NBN and Liberal party were all sorted which it is now and NBN is back in full swing. Anyway, i am in the industry so i should be able to find out and when i do, i will let you guys know. With the land being delayed and Danny being unsure, i am really getting worried now. I will wait another few weeks and check back with Danny and see what he says. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 8May 01, 2015 4:10 pm Yeah basically he said at this point they are only guessing, as the council has not approved the plan, so they don't know how long it's gonna take them. It's very frustrating but unsure of if there's anything we can do to push the developer. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 9May 01, 2015 9:08 pm mozzzy Hi blue_destiny. With stage 36 it was similar. We paid some money to put it on hold and then was asked to sign Section 32 and that we only had 7 days to sign in when they told us. I did have a copy of the engineering plans which were not approved at the time of signing so like you it was a gamble. I spoke to Danny at land office and took his word that it would be alright. Anyway, if you dont sign, you will lose the land but still, it sounded very shifty they way they do it. But unfortunately it is not illegal to operate like this so what can you do really. I really hope the counsel don't delay it any further. I really need to start building by September the latest. But oh well...fingers crossed. Also I heard that our street is going to be cabled up by Opticomm for Broadband and not NBN. To me that is a concern because if there are any issues with opticomm then we're screwed. NBN is different because it is protected by the TIO and the government and any complaints or issues are dealt with accordingly. Sorry i work in IT so i know a little about all this. But i was wondering if NBN will still be able to operate as an alternative. Does anyone know? Hi Mozzy, Opticomm and NBN is two separate things. NBN is not in Somerfield and only been developed in Waterways and Crystal Waters and The Keys. If building in Somerfield, you are getting either Telstra velocity which is gonna be sold to NBN later. Opticomm is just another FTTH provider because they don't lay copper wires anymore. blue_destiny Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 10Sep 17, 2015 10:59 pm Yep, I am one of the Stage 37 angry owners. We have been just advised our land is now expected to be titled in Dec-2015. This is the 4th time they have postponed. I really wish, we all could get together and either sue or send a petition about the number of delays. Apparently, they have been doing this for a long time, according to now home owners in Somerfield. I think there is a Special Condition 18 in the contract, which allows them to play this game with the home owners. Someone will have to teach them a good lesson or make them pay for the damages caused by the delay. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 11Sep 28, 2015 11:25 pm afa Yep, I am one of the Stage 37 angry owners. We have been just advised our land is now expected to be titled in Dec-2015. This is the 4th time they have postponed. I really wish, we all could get together and either sue or send a petition about the number of delays. Apparently, they have been doing this for a long time, according to now home owners in Somerfield. I think there is a Special Condition 18 in the contract, which allows them to play this game with the home owners. Someone will have to teach them a good lesson or make them pay for the damages caused by the delay. I am also a stage 37 angry owner. Somerfield didnt even bother to tell us our titles were delayed until December until I went into the office early last week to double check. Because their last email stated the titles were expected to be ready by October, I had put in leave at work for my tender appointment with our builder for end of October. I am just so frustrated and have now taken leave for no reason and I'm sure Somerfield isn't going to pay me back for that day. Completely over it and the excitement of building our new dream is no longer there. We have waited 18 months for this title and my patience is wearing very very thin Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 12Oct 19, 2015 8:29 pm Ok so i decided to get my lawyer involved and find out from somerfield lawyers when exactly will stage 36 be titled. Here is the response --> Dear ##### My client anticipates the Plan of Subdivision for Stage 36 to register in December 2015. Kind regards ###### So what do you guys make of it? Truth or more lyes? Anticipate is not the same as definite. I dont know what to make of it except that it is definately clear my builder wont be doing anything probably towards the end of Jan. That means we have wasted the whole year of 2015 renting paying off the landlord's land that he bought in somerfield. arrrrrrrgh!!!!!! Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 13Oct 19, 2015 9:19 pm mozzzy Ok so i decided to get my lawyer involved and find out from somerfield lawyers when exactly will stage 36 be titled. Here is the response --> Dear ##### My client anticipates the Plan of Subdivision for Stage 36 to register in December 2015. Kind regards ###### So what do you guys make of it? Truth or more lyes? Anticipate is not the same as definite. I dont know what to make of it except that it is definately clear my builder wont be doing anything probably towards the end of Jan. That means we have wasted the whole year of 2015 renting paying off the landlord's land that he bought in somerfield. arrrrrrrgh!!!!!! Thanks for doing that - to be honest with you I'm sure their lawyers would be very careful in their choice of words cos they know there are land owners out there (i.e. us) who are ready to fire up and sue them if we had the chance. The guy at the sales office said he can't even promise the titles for December. I feel your frustration. I rescheduled all my building appointments to January and almost certain will need to change it when the time comes. My conveyancer said last week she couldn't do anything either which leaves me with no hope but to wait. Is there anything else we can do? Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 14Oct 20, 2015 9:42 pm I went and had a look on Sunday, the work is almost done, all the pavements are complete, the lightpoles are in, and the blocks seem to have been cleaned from the piles of dirt etc. It seems to me all that's left is: a) to throw in the last part of the asphalt on the roads (it looks like the roads are just a bit lower than where they should be , so I'm only guessing there will be a final layer of asphalt) b) finish any soil work on the blocks themselves (not sure what that is and if its already done or pending) So it seems to me they really should be finished very soon, and then it's only a matter of the titles being released. Fingers crossed there will be no more delays! Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 15Oct 27, 2015 8:51 pm Hi Im also one of the Stage 37 owner. Very frustrated and angry. I've even had my building appointments done in April so loosing money there as well. Is there anything we can do to get then to complete this earlier? Thanks V Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 16Nov 12, 2015 9:31 pm Ok so the update is, the blocks are ready, roads are just about done except some minor finishing touches. The services are all in, the street lights are up and the surveying is done (boundry pegs put in place). If any of you go for a walk, you could probably see your own land and the boundry pegs. The high voltage power lines on tyers lane are there to stay. Dont ask me why, but it was council decision to keep this ridiculas power line running from under ground and then over head to stanley road and then back into the ground. I dont understand the reason for this. It looks ridiculas. So i recon we are very close for title. There is a way to check. Go to this site and if you can figure out what to click on, you might get an idea when the title is expected --> https://www.landata.vic.gov.au/ Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 17Nov 14, 2015 9:51 am Yep, I went there yesterday, construction is complete and we'll wait to see when the titles are issued. Since we only have 1 month until xmas, I'd expect titles in January, but we'll see!! I tried the landata website but can't get anywhere with just the lot number and the subdivision plan number. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 18Nov 14, 2015 10:26 am Hi guys. The works completed. The next step is getting Compliance certificate from Council and then getting it titled from Landata. From what I heard for some previous stages council could take up to 4 weeks and then getting title from Landata could take up to 6 weeks. It has not gone to council yet for compliance. Looks like a next year it is. Have been waiting too long now. Re: somerfield estate stage 36 massive delays for title 20Nov 16, 2015 4:01 pm There is a Public Transport Victoria bus consultation on this week Wed 18th Nov 6.30-7.30pm to discuss the proposed new route through our area. Hope to see you there Further details - https://getinvolved.ptv.vic.gov.au/Keysborough-south Those already living in the area have received a letter in the mail. I have a tool that i have created that does this. Message me with your details and I will send it to you. 5 21665 Just to makea point about this, an approach that some people have found sucessful in negotiating these rises down, Is to provide some workings to the builder, specifying… 4 65207 In fairness nobody gave a crap about the ACCC and the gag clauses continued in the pro forma templates of a few other builders after the ACCC took on Wisdom, and more… 20 57663 |