Browse Forums Buying Land Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 21May 18, 2011 2:35 pm I had just signed contract for a block of land in Southbank, Sheidow Park and would love to hear from others that are buying land in this release. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 22May 18, 2011 2:39 pm My wife and I have a block of land in the Stage 1 of Stage 24 development @ Sheidow Park. We have a house & land package with Fairmont. We are wondering who else has received the soil report & the wind speed, as we have been very shocked @ the additional costs involved. They had allowed $14,000 in the first quote for the footings, then up it to $20,000, then we received the Tax Invoice on the 17/5/11 for an extra $6,000 ($26,000) and then stated that there are no survey pegs with an additional $550. WTF We also received the Tax Invoice for the wind speed @36.1m/s with additional $2,271.13 WTF. What is going on, is anyone else in this same predicament. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 23May 18, 2011 3:00 pm Hi Boost Boy, We have almost a mirror image of issues as you.... see my previous post.... except our footings were almost spot on as per 2nd quote of $20K. We thought that absolutely amazing that they can get it so close. (almost deceptive). Wind speed issues also...Wait til you get involved with retaining... Hopefully your block is flat...and you won't need any. The $550 for pegging, you won't need to pay as Realty SA will peg out before settlement and then the risk of extra pegging transfers to the owners. Believe when the final pegging is done by Realty SA, go and get some Reo bar and hammer them in next to the pegs and wire them together.... Hope this helps. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 24May 18, 2011 3:13 pm Hi Benny1, It shows on our Drainage plan a retaining wall to be Approx 600 max high but it is the length I am worrying about as the block is 35m long but it only indicates were the house is which is just over 20m in length. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 25May 18, 2011 3:35 pm Sorry to crash the thread, but i just came upon it. We are building in Field River estate which was developed by realty SA. Looks like you guys were caught out like us. Our block is relatively flat but slopes at the end of the block. We initially put our plans in for a single level house and suprise suprise we were knocked back and had to split level this. It had something to do with privacy, fencing and the natural lay of the land. We are on the low side of the development and a lot of the soil was pushed back. $20000 for footings isnt too bad considering. To be honest, split levelling is a pain and costs a bit but will definately save you money in the future with retaining walls. Love how they have also given you the colour of your fences. They have done the same with us. Its a dark grey and not overly attractive. They can do this if it is in the estate guidelines. good luck! Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 26May 18, 2011 6:21 pm Hi newbuilder1 Thanks for the Split level info....Sounds like a huge change in plan....Is your block Medium to Large? Also is it on the boarder of your neighbours? Just trying to understand the knockback on the initial design.... Our block has a 1.5M fall from rear cnr to ft.oposite cnr. and is fairly large. Hopefully it will be approved as is... Cheers Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 27May 18, 2011 6:30 pm jeckysmith I had just signed contract for a block of land in Southbank, Sheidow Park and would love to hear from others that are buying land in this release. Hi jeckysmith Sorry didn't see your authored post.. Are you stage 1 or 2? Have you received engineers report on the footings for the Soil type.. If it anything like the others, it probably will be "E-D" extremely retctive... Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 28May 18, 2011 9:12 pm Welcome to the forum Benny1, jeckysmith and BoostBoy. Nice to meet some more future neighbours. We have finally decided on a house plan and will be signing the papers tomorrow night. We have decided to go with Statesman's Adelaide MK II Split (without the split and with some other slight modifications). Our salesguy has allowed $28,000 for footings but I will post the final cost once it comes through. We're hoping he has over estimated. Benny1 Retaining provider advised to find out neighbours Finished Bench Levels so the retaining wall we are planning does not get burried (worse case) should the neighbour change the ground levels as well. Hi Benny1, we were also wondering about this. newbuilder1 if you're still reading this thread would love to know what happened in your estate? Did RealtySA give out details for your neighbours so that this could be co-ordinated? As for the fencing we weren't too fussed. Guess it does look good to have them all the same colour just hope that the pricing doesn't go up too much if the colour is hard to get. I was very impressed to read that they got your footings cost pretty much spot on Benny1. May I ask who your building with. Boostboy - Sorry to hear that they bumped up your footings cost by $12,000. I could imagine that came as a nasty shock. Did they say why this was?
07.11.11 - Signed build contract 06.06.12 - Builders interview 27.07.12 - Slab poured 05.10.12 - Lock up Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 29May 18, 2011 9:29 pm Hi Benny1, Our house didn't pass with a garage setdown so we now have a 1m split. I'm hoping we'll save on footings though as the land will be flat now when you walk out the back door. Anyone else building on the neighours boundary? Our garage has to be built on the boundary line. I think our soil is H and footings were originally estimated at $18000 but hopefully it will be less with the split as we were already got with an extra fee for that. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 30May 19, 2011 9:06 am southbank newbuilder1 if you're still reading this thread would love to know what happened in your estate? Did RealtySA give out details for your neighbours so that this could be co-ordinated? Hi Southbank I'm also building in the field river. I think you'll fnd this actually has nothing to deal with RealtySA. It all comes down the the Marion Council. What they are doing is limiting what you can do to 50% of any possible change. For example if the max they will allow is 1.6m in tiered retaining between you and your neighbour, then they will only pass plans with 80cm or under. There is no need for you to contact your neighbour on these details. All you do is go forth with your plans and do what you can to have the council approve it. My lower boundry fence started at 70cm retaining and ended at 1m. My neighbours northern boundry (same wall) started at 60cm and ended at 30cm of retaining. So in the end we have a tiered retaining wall, boundry was 1M and the tier above that on my side of the fence was 40cm. Basically don't stress your self with what your neighbour is or is not doing. Just put all your energy into pleaseing the council, once thats done, it doesnt matter what anyone says. As you have council approval and your plans will go ahead Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 31May 19, 2011 11:14 am Hi all, Spoke this morning with Fairmont Homes Soil Report Enquires about the pricing of the soil report and was told it was due to all the extra steel, concrete, labor & other cost but the biggest factor is that our footings are 250w x 1000d with standard only being 200w x 450d massive difference especially over a 307sqm house. I also asked about hidden costs and he explained that we will hit rock at about 400mm depth. We also have a cut & fill of about 800mm. Anyone else having such massive footing???? We are Lot 25 Platform Avenue. We are building the Venice but we have modified it significantly. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 32May 19, 2011 12:20 pm Quote: Hi Benny1, we were also wondering about this. newbuilder1 if you're still reading this thread would love to know what happened in your estate? Did RealtySA give out details for your neighbours so that this could be co-ordinated? As for the fencing we weren't too fussed. Guess it does look good to have them all the same colour just hope that the pricing doesn't go up too much if the colour is hard to get. I was very impressed to read that they got your footings cost pretty much spot on Benny1. May I ask who your building with. Hi Southbank, Our Builder is Fairmont they allowed $20K and was spot on...No warning on the Wind Speed rating variation of $2K. We have approx 1.8M fall from Rear Cnr to Ft Opposite Cnr. Would really appreciate anyone's advise on a guestimate of 2x Retaing walls 1x 30M (200mm grading to 1.4M) Other 1x22M (1M Grading to 800MM). Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 33May 19, 2011 12:55 pm Hi Benny1 to be truthful if your plans have not yet been approved by Marion Council, I think you'll find they are going to come back rejected and you'll need to split, with those current measurements. Being a little more positive, you're 1x22m (800m-1000m) wall you're looking at approximately $8,000 for standard grey concrete sleepers. It is too hard to tell on your other one due to the gradient change. The only reason why I say the negative above is that the council will follow rule of thumb being if you retain 1.4m and your neighbour decides to cut or fill in the opposite maner to 1.4m. Then your retaining wall is going to have a highest point of 2.8m (complete worse case scenerio) You might get lucky no one in field river did though. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 34May 19, 2011 3:17 pm Thanks 1stBuildFR for the advise. Much appreciated. Will see what the council says for our block. Would be great to know what the neighbours are doing as far as bench levels...Guess we will find out prior to construction... When did you find out these details? Was it too late then? Was the retaining up before construction? Did you sign a document from your builder stating no building was to take place prior to construction? Think we did..... Also Would really appreciate if anyone has had any good experiences with Retaining wall companies oh ye... and also any bad.... Would love to hear of some honest wall builders out there... Cheers Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 35May 19, 2011 3:27 pm Hi Benny 1 When did you find out these details? Found out what our neighbour was doing when our works ceased due to not safe for workers. Lessons learnt as we went along, because Sheidow Park Southbank is an suburb and not an estate their might be more room for movement on requirements. Field river has sucked for many. People building 150sqm courtyard homes with over 1m splits in them. Not fun for anyone. Check out forum viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34989 Was it too late then? Not really, just a 2-3 week delay waiting for the wall to be built. Was the retaining up before construction? Rule of thumb is no matter when you do it, it doesnt matter, you're still going to get the same delay. Depending on safety. We had 1.4M between house and boundry on the slop side, and then a 1.4M drop. Due to safety issues and structual issues, house works stopped once slab was poured. Some other people had to build walls before commencement. Its up to the sub contractor doing the slab really. I wont say up to the builder, because I am building with Fairmont my walls went up after slab, another fairmont home has walls after completion and another has walls before start. So its all different. You may get away with walls after completion, if you get in first. The first to build is usually the safest/quickest. Its like removing the first block in jenga, with each piece, more risk and issues to structure Did you sign a document from your builder stating no building was to take place prior to construction? Nope. Also Would really appreciate if anyone has had any good experiences with Retaining wall companies? - Cyclops Construction (Marcus), they are amazing. He will look at your council approved plans, and your neighbours. And he will divide the costs based on your builds requirements. Therefore theres no debating with neighbours. He breaks up the bill into fair portions. Also he is an absolute perfectionist. If you want to see an example. Go to the field river estate, my house is the slab'n'frame next door to the 1 and only double story. My tiered retaining wall was done by them. Sorry for the essay. I am just keen to help others, as I know how hard it can be, and how stressful it was for us. I wish I had to guts to ask more questions as I went along, as my brain is a little wrecked Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 36May 19, 2011 3:35 pm Hi all,
Found out some info on waffle pod foundations, seems they may save money, time & effort + improve energy efficiency & increase slab strength. Sounds perfect for the reactive soil, we all seem to have. For those building with FH it may be a good idea to write a letter to the Construction Manager in relation to having the waffle pod instead of having the problem and costs we will have when they start digging for the footings. http://www.wafflepodpeople.com.au/ or http://www.wafflepod.com/wafflepod/products/index.php Just found some more info on Waffle Pod NOT GOING TO BE ANY GOOD for our block to much movement. Cost would be very similar. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 37May 19, 2011 3:38 pm Hi again 1stBuildFR, Really appreciate your input as your experiences you share on this forum will hopefully help more than just me out.....Will definitely take your advise on your wall builder and hopefully will be helpful as was to you...Also good advice on the delays experienced and how to avoid them by getting in early with walls etc.... I might drive by and check out your field river property..I have been down there a few times and some real construction goin on...The block sizes must have an impact in Field River and looks like that is why the issues with council... Our block is 900Msq. so maybe this will make the difference to Council.. Once again....Many Thanks.... Cheers Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 38May 19, 2011 3:42 pm My blocks 873sqm Think Field River just had an example made of it. There are 3 Fairmont show homes going in there. And even Fairmont couldnt get away without making all 3 split-level ha ha ha.... its good to see everyone get treated the same Good luck all. Fun times are ahead Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 39May 19, 2011 4:41 pm Benny1 Hi newbuilder1 Thanks for the Split level info....Sounds like a huge change in plan....Is your block Medium to Large? Also is it on the boarder of your neighbours? Just trying to understand the knockback on the initial design.... Our block has a 1.5M fall from rear cnr to ft.oposite cnr. and is fairly large. Hopefully it will be approved as is... Cheers Hi benny1, You are welcome. I think 1stbuilder also helped you out a lot. Im not good with the technical things. we investigated as to why we were not informed about the split when we initially purchased the land and with numberous conversations between lawyers and council, council blamed realty SA and visa versa. In the end it was a privacy issue (not sure why as we are not looking into anyones house as we have no 1 behind us). Our neighbours are yet to build so we are not sure as to our retaining wall situation. Hopefully we are on similar gradients that it wont affect too much. I think as 1st in best dressed with the levels of your house. Our block is 750sqm (15 wide and 50 long) so a long skinny block. I do know 1 house in our estate took council to court and won so they did not need to split but had to pay for all retaining for the neighbours between the blocks. Probably in the end came back at same costs. Re: Building in Southbank, Sheidow Park 40May 19, 2011 4:57 pm Not sure if thats the same lot Newbuilder1 as the one I know off. But there was a block in our estate who got an independant inspecter to come in. They got away without split leveling, the compromise was that instead of being 6M from the road they started the house 8M from the road, to move it to a slightly more level part of the block Hey guys building a new place through a volume builder and just wondering if i should complain to the site supervisor as we just had plasterboard installed. Looks like… 0 11864 |