concrete swimming pool

Dincel forms are $25 per meter110mm and $28 meter 200mm plus delivery.
7.5x3.5x 1.5 average pool will require 100 meters @say $25= $2500 because of design they require more concrete than blocks as well and tiling is required they must be prepared with an approved coating so the cost adds up quite alot will most likely go down the raod using versaloc bricks and cement render/paint.
Steel will be from onesteel using 12mm pool bar. i work for them so an easy choice.
I have looked at thermaell but was worried about internal finish being damaged.

I will be watching this one for sure!
I don't like block construction of pools.

Will need to add up costing of both systems and decide.
I have spoken with a guy up in queensland who built a block pool 10 years ago was rendered with std cement render and painted said he never had any trouble at all for the 8 years he lived at that address.

Google Kevin Moran swimming pool.

I don't need to google anything... Guess how many concrete tanks I have repaired...?? Several thousand BTW
How many were block construction....? half
How long have I been repairing concrete? more than 20 years.

But go for it and I wish you all the best!

When you mention Dincel price is that linear metre?

Also can you just paint the surface instead of tiling?

Thermacell once rendered seemed very strong to me.

onc_artisan

I notice you have a picture of a pool you or someone is painting on your link.

What type of construction method was that?

Is the paint for aesthetics and or for waterproofing?

Did you use shotcrete (cement and sand)?

Also you mentioned about the ponds you build had silica fume added which makes it water proof.

Is silica fume the same as something like Xypex? Are you able to give a brand? Was it expensive?

i was of the belief that no matter what Mpa concrete ordered 32 or 40 it is not water proof?

Is that true?

Finally your concern for block pools is the construction joint between floor and wall?

Thanks

Pulpo

Yes price per lineal meter and are 333mm in width 7500mm/333= 22.5

22.5x 1.5 wall height=33.75 meters

33.75x$28=$943.00 per side wall and require 2.1 cubic meters of concrete.

wall cost $943 + 2.1 x $175 32mpa = $1310 x2= $2620 for 2 walls

End wall 3500/333= 10.5x1.2 height= 12.6 meters@$28 meter= $352 plus concrete $175=$527 end wall.

End wall 3500/333= 10.5x1.8 height= 18.9 meters@$28 meter=$529 plus concrete 1.2 meters cement =$210= $739 end wall.

Side walls $2620
End walls $1266
Base $910

$4796 plus rebar $400= $5196

Blocks 200mmx400mm
side wall 7500/400= 18.75 blocks 1500/200= 7.5 blocks= 18.75x7.5=140 blocksx2= 280 blocks for side walls
end wall 3500/400= 8.75 block 1200/200= 6 blocks 8.75x6= 53 blocks
end wall 3500/400= 8.75 1800/200 9 blocks 8.75x9= 79 blocks

280+53+79= 412 blocks @ $4.00 each= $1648
concrete $1575
$3223 plus rebar $600= $3823.

Block benefit can be cement rendered and painted using widely available products dincel requires specialized products at greater cost.

Pulpo - silicafume is sand flour( very fine particulates) it is a void filler
Concrete tanks are waterproof and they are 100mm thick and can hold several mtrs of 'head'.
Superplas reduces the amount of water needed for cement hydration.
Vibration and continuous placement to avoid cold joins.

Is anyone familiar with Des Joyaux pools? I stumbled upon them today and was impressed, they are new to Australia (Sydney) but have been around since 1966 and have built pools in many countries around the world.

I like the concept as they use a system of forming blocks that are then filled with steel and concrete. The walls and floor are poured at the same time so the pool is one piece. The whole pool is then lined with a membrane (similar to those used on above ground pools) which gives a nice finish, reduces the chance of leaking and means the pool doesn't suffer alkaline problems that can occur from concrete pools.

This design looks perfect for us as we are on a battleaxe block making crane access for a fibreglass pool difficult. I will also be looking to put the pool behind a 600mm retaining wall, with this design the pool can be above ground or inground, i.e. the wieght of the pool is supported by the pool edge not my retaining wall. Also allows any shape to be constructed. But best of all they are cheaper than traditional concrete pools and can be build in a just over a week.

Anyone built one? If not can someone get one in the next few weeks and let me know if they are any good.

Dincel is already water proof and do you really need to add a finish? I think for partly above ground pools it's a solution and from what I'm aware you can do it yourself. I use a drawing tool they had made that works inside Sketchup that has dincel in it and it does the calculations for me It's $10 & is called Plusspec. This way you can draw your pool and calculate the cost. I'd like to hear from others that have done this because I'd like to give it a go.

I know this thread is old but did you end up making your pool? I'm going thru the process now. Was looking at versaloc to save on bricklayer fees, but these have to be slab poured, then blocks laid then core filled, so would need 2 pumps of concrete. Then looked at adbri Besser blocks where can be poured in one go, using wash out blocks on the base.
Then I called dincel today and their product looks good and could be poured in one go.
Problem is with dincel is my pool is aboveground and the PVC external sides will be exposed. Yes I could paint them but the versaloc bricks would look better.
My pool will be 5.5x2.8.1.7m so not huge.
Every other person on YouTube who builds block pools pour the slab and block on-top without issues.
Atleast with versaloc blocks sika or gripset waterproofing can be used and would last longer.

Hi Skyviewfm,

I'm looking/planning for a very similar pool even I have been looking th same system (Versaloc).

With a single pour in mind I'm considering the first course of concrete block to be Besser block 20.45 (google it) and then Versaloc, I'm a structural engineer so this do not have any issea forms structural perspective as long the first course of block are propeally installed.

The waterproof is a different matter for me where I don't have any experience/ knowledge about it, but I was thinking a water proof render over the concrete blocks and then ecofinish.

Send me a message and we can share ideas/options and discuss it

Hi there,

thanks for very useful information posted online.
It seems to me versaloc bricks is more economical,

Do I need a new structural engineering design to modify my existing pool plans?
if so is there anyone there that can help carrying on the design for a reasonable price?





My current certificate is including an above ground level swimming pool which is made of a modified 20ft shipping container.

since this requires crane lifting I thought it's more practical to change the design to something easier. but I'm not sure if I need a new structural certificate for that,

Is there anyone there that can help?

it's much appreciated 😌 🙏

Hi


My DA has been approved now awaiting for the construction certificate to be approved which our local council takes forever.

There is a local pool company that uses versloc blocks on a slab and works fine most YouTube videos are the same.

One the walls are poured, waterproofing is used. Sika or drizorro cementious waterproofing is used on the walls and floor.
2 or 3 coats. Then it can be tiled.

I'll be making a video of the full construction when I get started hopefully Inna few months.

You say you're a structural engineer?
I have an engineer friend who gave me some specs and also adbri masonry have block pool construction specs.

If the council doesn't approve my engineering specs, what would you charge?