Re: concrete swimming pool21
Jan 31, 2011 6:24 pm
Dincel forms are $25 per meter110mm and $28 meter 200mm plus delivery.
7.5x3.5x 1.5 average pool will require 100 meters @say $25= $2500 because of design they require more concrete than blocks as well and tiling is required they must be prepared with an approved coating so the cost adds up quite alot will most likely go down the raod using versaloc bricks and cement render/paint.
Steel will be from onesteel using 12mm pool bar. i work for them so an easy choice.
I have looked at thermaell but was worried about internal finish being damaged.
Re: concrete swimming pool23
Feb 01, 2011 9:10 am
Will need to add up costing of both systems and decide.
I have spoken with a guy up in queensland who built a block pool 10 years ago was rendered with std cement render and painted said he never had any trouble at all for the 8 years he lived at that address.
Google Kevin Moran swimming pool.
Re: concrete swimming pool24
Feb 01, 2011 9:24 am
I don't need to google anything... Guess how many concrete tanks I have repaired...?? Several thousand BTW
How many were block construction....? half
How long have I been repairing concrete? more than 20 years.
But go for it and I wish you all the best!
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Re: concrete swimming pool25
Feb 01, 2011 11:36 am
When you mention Dincel price is that linear metre?
Also can you just paint the surface instead of tiling?
Thermacell once rendered seemed very strong to me.
I notice you have a picture of a pool you or someone is painting on your link.
What type of construction method was that?
Is the paint for aesthetics and or for waterproofing?
Did you use shotcrete (cement and sand)?
Also you mentioned about the ponds you build had silica fume added which makes it water proof.
Is silica fume the same as something like Xypex? Are you able to give a brand? Was it expensive?
i was of the belief that no matter what Mpa concrete ordered 32 or 40 it is not water proof?
Is that true?
Finally your concern for block pools is the construction joint between floor and wall?
Re: concrete swimming pool26
Feb 01, 2011 5:42 pm
Yes price per lineal meter and are 333mm in width 7500mm/333= 22.5
22.5x 1.5 wall height=33.75 meters
33.75x$28=$943.00 per side wall and require 2.1 cubic meters of concrete.
wall cost $943 + 2.1 x $175 32mpa = $1310 x2= $2620 for 2 walls
End wall 3500/333= 10.5x1.2 height= 12.6 meters@$28 meter= $352 plus concrete $175=$527 end wall.
End wall 3500/333= 10.5x1.8 height= 18.9 meters@$28 meter=$529 plus concrete 1.2 meters cement =$210= $739 end wall.
Side walls $2620
End walls $1266
$4796 plus rebar $400= $5196
side wall 7500/400= 18.75 blocks 1500/200= 7.5 blocks= 18.75x7.5=140 blocksx2= 280 blocks for side walls
end wall 3500/400= 8.75 block 1200/200= 6 blocks 8.75x6= 53 blocks
end wall 3500/400= 8.75 1800/200 9 blocks 8.75x9= 79 blocks
280+53+79= 412 blocks @ $4.00 each= $1648
$3223 plus rebar $600= $3823.
Block benefit can be cement rendered and painted using widely available products dincel requires specialized products at greater cost.
Re: concrete swimming pool27
Feb 01, 2011 6:48 pm
Pulpo - silicafume is sand flour( very fine particulates) it is a void filler
Concrete tanks are waterproof and they are 100mm thick and can hold several mtrs of 'head'.
Superplas reduces the amount of water needed for cement hydration.
Vibration and continuous placement to avoid cold joins.
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Re: concrete swimming pool28
May 11, 2011 8:27 pm
Is anyone familiar with Des Joyaux pools? I stumbled upon them today and was impressed, they are new to Australia (Sydney) but have been around since 1966 and have built pools in many countries around the world.
I like the concept as they use a system of forming blocks that are then filled with steel and concrete. The walls and floor are poured at the same time so the pool is one piece. The whole pool is then lined with a membrane (similar to those used on above ground pools) which gives a nice finish, reduces the chance of leaking and means the pool doesn't suffer alkaline problems that can occur from concrete pools.
This design looks perfect for us as we are on a battleaxe block making crane access for a fibreglass pool difficult. I will also be looking to put the pool behind a 600mm retaining wall, with this design the pool can be above ground or inground, i.e. the wieght of the pool is supported by the pool edge not my retaining wall. Also allows any shape to be constructed. But best of all they are cheaper than traditional concrete pools and can be build in a just over a week.
Anyone built one? If not can someone get one in the next few weeks and let me know if they are any good.
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Re: concrete swimming pool29
Oct 29, 2017 3:11 pm
Dincel is already water proof and do you really need to add a finish? I think for partly above ground pools it's a solution and from what I'm aware you can do it yourself. I use a drawing tool they had made that works inside Sketchup that has dincel in it and it does the calculations for me It's $10 & is called Plusspec. This way you can draw your pool and calculate the cost. I'd like to hear from others that have done this because I'd like to give it a go.
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