Browse Forums Pools & Spas 1 Jan 31, 2009 8:09 pm We are about to start building our new house which is a part of a development and includes all landscaping etc. My problem is I am looking to install a swimming pool and am confused about what I can and cannot do.
Firstly, obviously it is not a good idea to have the landscaping completed and then have the pool company come in and rip every thing up... Can the property development company say no??? I've heard they will be difficult but can I say bad luck? the pool company is coming? Also, we are looking for an inground fibreglass pool. Can anyone give me a guide to what we should be budgeting (pool only) and where I should be looking for cheaper, high quality pools? I have spoken to a few companies and they are around the same price ($25k) however I'm wondering if that is cheap, average or expensive end of the scale. Also, what should be included in the pool and what should I avoid (i.e. what do they try to sell you that is not really required. THanks in advance... Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 2Jan 31, 2009 8:54 pm If some one is replying to this post, I would also like to know that if I have an easement and a sewer line running through the backyard, how much space do I have to leave between
a) the pool and the sewer line b) The pool and the easement Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 3Feb 01, 2009 12:43 pm If you have little kids or haven't started your family yet, put in a small shallow pond or water feature- something the kids can play in safely or that attracts birds or frogs- and spend the rest of the money on trips away or season tickets to the local pool That way your children will survive to school age at least I reckon the cost of installation, the constant maintenance, volume of water, loss of useable yard space, and the danger make backyard pools a really bad idea. Don't ya just wish I'd kept my opinion to myself? Jay(InOz). Too many hobbies, too many commitments, too many kids, too many aches and pains, too little time, too little money- but it's an enjoyable ride:) Jay. Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 7Feb 02, 2009 1:05 pm whitsey I've been to the pool and spa expo...that's why i'm on here! It got me excited and I have a few prices and wanted to know if I am on a good thing. What I've found in Sydney is that the cost of fibreglass and concrete are very similar. Be very careful with your quotes because there are a lot of things that aren't factored in with most companies. Eg. DA/CDC costs, actual spoil removal costs (the ones that say free removal to a location within 5km chosen by you know that it is rare that someone can actually find a suitable location)...the spoil removal can cost upward of $3k! Make sure they've included coping, insurance, provision for solar heating, electrician costs for pool provisions, plumber costs if you have a sand filter and need to have a backwash pipe going to a sewer gully, etc. Make sure that any finishes are included, eg. the type of pebblecrete in a concrete pool. Remember that different types of finish make the water apprear a different colour. Best example is a very well known pool builder who always quotes people $19,990 for a fully installed pool but then the costs pile up later to take the total up to around $40k. If your pool is 7x3 or 8x3 or 9x4, the difference should only be a couple of hundred dollars with a concrete pool. The same amount of steel is used and the main cost is an extra 15mins or so for the excavator. This is directly from our pool builder. I'll send you a copy of my fibreglass and concrete quotes qhen I get home (if I remember!). The pools in question are 8x3m. One important thing to remember (not sure if it's the same in all states) is that you don't necessarily need to do a DA for your pool. For us, we qualify for a Complying Development Cetrificate. All we need is for the pool to be 1.5m from the boundaries and for no trees to be removed in the process. This saves a lot of time and a lot of money. edit: well bugger me, I might have found somewhere who might actually do it all for around the $20-25k mark. No claims made against them either. Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 8Feb 19, 2009 1:04 pm Thanks all, I ended up buying a pool from Compass Pools in Rowville who I had met at the pool and spa show. They were having a sale and gave us a great deal. They were helpful with location, size etc. and ended up upsizing us to a pool we didn't think would fit... Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 9Feb 20, 2009 2:04 am stevep79 whitsey I've been to the pool and spa expo...that's why i'm on here! It got me excited and I have a few prices and wanted to know if I am on a good thing. What I've found in Sydney is that the cost of fibreglass and concrete are very similar. Be very careful with your quotes because there are a lot of things that aren't factored in with most companies. Eg. DA/CDC costs, actual spoil removal costs (the ones that say free removal to a location within 5km chosen by you know that it is rare that someone can actually find a suitable location)...the spoil removal can cost upward of $3k! Make sure they've included coping, insurance, provision for solar heating, electrician costs for pool provisions, plumber costs if you have a sand filter and need to have a backwash pipe going to a sewer gully, etc. Make sure that any finishes are included, eg. the type of pebblecrete in a concrete pool. Remember that different types of finish make the water apprear a different colour. Best example is a very well known pool builder who always quotes people $19,990 for a fully installed pool but then the costs pile up later to take the total up to around $40k. If your pool is 7x3 or 8x3 or 9x4, the difference should only be a couple of hundred dollars with a concrete pool. The same amount of steel is used and the main cost is an extra 15mins or so for the excavator. This is directly from our pool builder. I'll send you a copy of my fibreglass and concrete quotes qhen I get home (if I remember!). The pools in question are 8x3m. One important thing to remember (not sure if it's the same in all states) is that you don't necessarily need to do a DA for your pool. For us, we qualify for a Complying Development Cetrificate. All we need is for the pool to be 1.5m from the boundaries and for no trees to be removed in the process. This saves a lot of time and a lot of money. edit: well bugger me, I might have found somewhere who might actually do it all for around the $20-25k mark. No claims made against them either. care to share the info , as we looking at a 7x3 for our place too ... man i miss the massive aboveground pool we had when i was a kid ... Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 10Feb 20, 2009 8:18 am da68za care to share the info , as we looking at a 7x3 for our place too ... man i miss the massive aboveground pool we had when i was a kid ... False alarm, that guy ended up coming in over the cost of our other quote. If you're looking for a pool, contact Concept Pools. www.conceptpoolsaust.com.au They are the ones who Eden Brae exclusively recommend and an example of their work is the pool at Eden Brae's Ponds display. The owner is fantastic and he'll spend 2-3 hours on a weekend going through every single little detail with you and his quotes are very detailed as well and are extremely good to use as a template for getting other quotes. He addresses all of the normal hidden costs involved that a lot of others seem to miss as well. Even through all of this, his quote was fantastic. 8x3 for $30k (concrete) including absolutely everything and even the surface upgrade. I've actually scrapped the pool idea for now, I've been told it will only cost an extra $4k to put it in at a later date even with our slim side access so I'd prefer to free up funds for the wedding instead! Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 11Feb 20, 2009 9:47 am We bought our pool from Summerset Pools in a kit form - f/glass. They passed on a few installer names which we contacted and got quotes from. We will save $20k doing it this way rather than through a company. Our pool is 10m x 4.1m. The only extra thing we paid for was two lights, some PVC pipes and water. Happy at Home Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 13Feb 20, 2009 9:54 am da68za Thanks for that ... I like the pool E B have at the ponds , another good one at the ponds is the little one in the avjennings 2 storey ... Unfortunately the pool at the Ponds is worth $80-100k It's all individual imported Italian mosaics, etc. Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 14Feb 20, 2009 11:25 am stevep79 da68za Thanks for that ... I like the pool E B have at the ponds , another good one at the ponds is the little one in the avjennings 2 storey ... Unfortunately the pool at the Ponds is worth $80-100k It's all individual imported Italian mosaics, etc. ok ugh i think i will cross that one of the list ... Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 15Feb 20, 2009 11:50 am da68za stevep79 da68za Thanks for that ... I like the pool E B have at the ponds , another good one at the ponds is the little one in the avjennings 2 storey ... Unfortunately the pool at the Ponds is worth $80-100k It's all individual imported Italian mosaics, etc. ok ugh i think i will cross that one of the list ... If you mention liking the look of the Eden Brae pool to him, he'll immediately give you that disclaimer to shatter your dreams Stevep79 & Principessa Finished building Wisdom Homes Impression 33mkII in The Ponds, Sydney http://lilypadintheponds.blogspot.com Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 16Feb 20, 2009 2:07 pm We are currently looking at Albatross Pools. Concrete base, metal frame and rubber liner. Apparently cheaper than others and just as good. (we're waiting for a quote and will let you know how we go).
Em Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 18Mar 02, 2009 12:31 pm we went with Narellan pools on the weekend.. they were the cheapest out of the 3 quotes we got.. John, Tarin and the Kids Built and moving in to the Regent Grande with Masterton homes http://thebrownsaremovingtothecountry.blogspot.com Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 19Mar 02, 2009 12:51 pm John - *snap* we just went with Narellan Pools too. Whilst they weren't the cheapest on paper, the hidden extra's by 'that other builder' put us off. We are getting a Symphony 7x3m all in (with water feature) for $30k. Building the Caprice33 by Provincial Homes. Now it's time for the landscaping http://jacksonsbuild.blogspot.com Re: Swimming Pool Guidance 20Mar 02, 2009 12:59 pm Nice
we went with the Maderia in Bermuda blue John, Tarin and the Kids Built and moving in to the Regent Grande with Masterton homes http://thebrownsaremovingtothecountry.blogspot.com The last home I lived in didn't have a pool and when i went to sell it the agents were not happy, even telling me to put one in to sell the place. The agents weren't happy… 2 4255 Hi everyone, Looking for some advise. We are about to build an above ground pool in our backyard. There is a private sewer line running under the pool at 1.6m… 0 11763 |