Ah thanks for that !!
If there's only a few that have cold-only connections, and there's solar hot-water in your life, or you can see that there will be in the future, then as long as you stay away from these cold-only models you'd be OK !
P_D
Browse Forums Laundry Appliances Re: Top load or front load washing machine 41Jun 27, 2011 8:59 am Lex Pepsi_Drinker sceen7 I guess that makes it all the more interesting, are front-loaders (generally / sometimes / always / often ?? ) cold-water connection only ? Ah thanks for that !! If there's only a few that have cold-only connections, and there's solar hot-water in your life, or you can see that there will be in the future, then as long as you stay away from these cold-only models you'd be OK ! P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Top load or front load washing machine 42Jun 27, 2011 9:24 am The plot thickens !! Seems like it really does depend on the brand !! I just downloaded two Bosch installation instructions, chosen at random from their list of available downloads, and both of them were cold-water connection only. I also downloaded the instruction manual for one of their models, WAE24462AU, (randomly chosen from their list of available downloads) and it's electricity consumption varies enormously depending on whether or not you're using a "Cool wool" through to a "Hot Cotton" cycle. With solar hot-water and a desire to do at least some of my washing as either "warm" or "hot" temperatures (my overalls get REALLY dirty) I cannot see a cold-water-only machine in my life. FWIW, That's why we've connected our "single-hose" dishwasher to the hot-water tap too, cold washes are not an option with dishwashers, just hot, really hot or stinkin' hot. By not using energy to heat the water as well as saving $$'s there's also the nice warm fuzzy feeling you're supposed to get by not generating (as much) greenhouse gas with water-heating. Since swapping to hot-water-connection the cycle finishes noticeably quicker too (again saving $$'s by running the pump less) as it seems the "run-time" of the cycle is not "started" until the water is up to temperature............ As an example, if the 60°C cycle runs for one hour, and the inlet water temperature is 60°C, then the cycle (and thus the pump) runs for one hour. However, if the inlet water temperature is 15°C, the pump and heater run for 15 minutes while the water is heater to 60°C, AND THEN THE 60 MINUTE TIMER STARTS. So by using cold water, as well as paying to heat the water (extra electricity), I was also running the pump for 15 minutes (25% extra electricity !! ) longer. More food for thought !! P_D . Block settled 07 June 2011 Our little piece of the Interwebs on HomeOne....... viewtopic.php?f=31&t=48577&start=0 Re: Top load or front load washing machine 43Jun 27, 2011 4:34 pm I wash for seven people - including 5 teenagers so I know all about washing! I would do between 2-4 loads of washing every day. When our top loader washer gave up the ghost we did a fair bit of research and ended up getting an Electrolux Eco Valve 7kg washer which has a 5 star water rating We knew that front loaders were water efficient so it would save us money. I recall that when we decided to buy this particular model (about 2 years ago) at the first price we saw one the price was about $960 but with a few phone calls we bought it for about $665 with a $100 rebate back so it only cost us about $565 installed Its quiet, has short or long washes and buttons for all different types of wash. I only ever use the cold water cycle. Even if I had toddlers, there is no way they could open the washer mid cycle and if they pressed any buttons mid wash, at best it would show an error message and stop. I am very happy with our front loader and would always choose a front loader in future. Re: Top load or front load washing machine 44Jun 27, 2011 4:39 pm Pepsi_Drinker I guess that makes it all the more interesting, are front-loaders (generally / sometimes / always / often ?? ) cold-water connection only ? Depends on the machine. My old one used the hotwater from hotwater system, my new one has a cold connection only and heats it's own water (has a very high energy rating still) as we have the worlds smallest hotwater system in this rental, needed a new washing machine so I got one that heated its own water. Hope that helps. ~ trying to build our dream home by the sea ~ Re: Top load or front load washing machine 45Jun 27, 2011 6:32 pm We upgraded from a top-loader to a Miele Front loader after trying one out at my brother-in-laws place. The slightly longer time for some cycles takes some getting used to, but the quality of the wash, the water efficiency etc compared to our old machine is second to none. For the record, we have 2 older boys, 14 (who is now in a men's small size clothing) and 1 smaller 11 year old. So 4 of us, and there's no problem with the wash sizes. Cassie 28/7/11 - Slabbed 15/8/11 - Framed 19/9/11 - LOCKED UP! 6/10/11 - Kitchen in! 11/11/11 - It's all OURS! Pg 12 Follow our build: The Noodle Family - Preston in the Hills Re: Top load or front load washing machine 46Jun 27, 2011 11:01 pm I have a Miele with cold only connection, and I have solar hot water. To be honest, I don't think it would've been any good having it connected to the washing machine as the hot water take a while to get to destination and seeing as the water trickles into the machine, then it shakes the clothes around, trickles some more in, etc, I doubt much of the hot water would actually make it to the machine. I wash mostly on cold water, I only wash sheets and towels on hot water, so only a couple of washes a week are on hot. Re: Top load or front load washing machine 47Jun 29, 2011 9:08 am Found this debate very interesting. I have a top loading Hoover, 16 years old, made in Australia! It's still going but for how long? Am thinking a front loader is the best to gain some bench space. Some Samsung machines have a stop and add function, for those bits and pieces that fall out of the basket on the way to the laundry. You can only stop and add in the first 5 mins, but it is something to consider. Re: Top load or front load washing machine 48Jun 29, 2011 9:26 am We have a Maytag front loader-has hot & cold connections. We have had frontloaders since 1989- (westinghouse,LG and now the Maytag) and I wouldn't go back to top loaders. Deemaree Kyndylan Capers: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=46852 My blog: http://www.sufficientlysufficient.blogspot.com/ Re: Top load or front load washing machine 49Jun 30, 2011 7:53 am we just bought a new washer late last year. Another top loader. Perhaps our next will be a front loaded. I like the idea of bench space in the laundry but do prefer the idea of a top loader. I always worry about the seal leaking on a front loader. ( not that rational I guess but that's me). DH wasn't interested at all in even looking at front loaders. But then our last washer, which was the first, we'd bought together 27 years before and was a replacement for a twin tub and that was a big step for him Some how I doubt our new machine will last us 27 years. Do things ever last like they used to? Ours works more like a front loader. Uses about the same amount of water as one and uses front loader washing liquids. Although it can use hot water to do hot water washes we wash in cold water. Re: Top load or front load washing machine 50May 26, 2012 8:53 am These days washing machines are quite tricky. You never really know what are you getting in terms of excat behaviour and washing programs. We just replaced our old (and wonderful) Whirlpool front loader with another brand and - it's not what I expected from the user manual! Geeeeeeez .... They seem to write manuals for more than 1 model (even though the title of the manual mentions only one specific model number). Should have stayed with Whirlpool ... My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Top load or front load washing machine 51May 31, 2012 8:44 pm Six months in using our new Miele and the pain of the initial price slug is long forgotten. Just to add or comment on a few of the points raised here. Our machine doesnt have a stop and add function, however it will open a couple of minutes into the cycle. I interrupted the cycle once to see what would happen and found that because the machine used so little water in a cycle, it doesnt matter a toss if you have to start again, except for the time factor. We have an instantaneous HSW and the machine copes quite well with it.
I dont think I would ever go back to a top loader, hopefully given the Miele reputation we wont have to consider that decision for a very long time to come. Re: Top load or front load washing machine 52Jun 01, 2012 7:59 am My biggest grudge so far with my new machine is the spinning. It's a 6.5 kg machine with max 1200 spin speed. I find the 1200 spin barely dries the clothes up to the level of some 800-900 in the old machine! It only once gave me a drier result than my old washer (which was 1000 max), and I think it was the case of a perfect load weight. The old machine was drying perfectly every time and regardless of the amount of washing in it! Seems like I'll have to start weighing the washing before I load the machine My signature is distracting people from my wise posts ... Re: Top load or front load washing machine 53Jun 01, 2012 10:46 am We got a front loader. It takes soooo much longer than our old top loader and when the spin cycle is going, it makes so much noise and spins so fast I can only assume the thing is so ridiculously heavy to stop it flying away! Building tip No. 3: A raft slab will not get you down a river. A waffle pod slab does not go with maple syrup. My building thread https://forum.homeone.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=53000 Re: Top load or front load washing machine 54Jun 03, 2012 8:15 am Having lived in the UK for many years we only had a front loader. We even shipped our UK machine with our furniture and brought it out to Australia. It lasted for about 5 years here and then i purchased a top loader when it finally broke down. I fancied the idea of adding extra clothes throughout the cycle and also the different water levels for small or larger loads. I thought it washed a lot rougher on the clothes with more pilling and more creases than the front loader. I had it for 10 years and when it finally broke down i knew i had to purchase another front loader. With the 30 min cycle and the addition of being able to add clothes when the cycle had started and the gentle wash on the clothes i knew i was on to a winner. No regrets. Hey all Currently renovating our laundry, bought a new washing machine but have found that the drainage hose is alot shorter than the old machine (which I used to get the… 0 17519 Any structural alteration to your home requires building permit. Before you get it you will have to supply plans with structural assessment, you will also be removing… 2 4111 Building Standards; Getting It Right! These can be easily filled and repaired and it doesn't cost them much to do. Id get the builder to do this first and if the repair is not suitable then a replacement is… 12 31266 |