Browse Forums Kitchen Appliances 1 Mar 17, 2013 1:37 pm I wish to replace my current noisy rangehood Chef RFD602S with a Schweigen undermount model UM1170-6S. However, is seems that the Schweigen undermount has a much smaller filter area than the existing rangehood. The depth of the Schweigen is 295mm (I guess in order to sit under standard 300mm cupboards), whereas the existing chef rangehood has a depth of 500mm (i.e. it sticks out from under the cupboards). Since the cooktop area is about 500mm deep, it seems that the Schweigen only covers the back two burners, and the front burners (the one's that are used more often) and not covered. Is this an issue? Do the Schweigen undermounts have enough suction to draw in the rising steam/smoke from the front burners. Also is the Isodrive 650 powerful enough for this, or should I get the Isodrive 1600? Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 2Mar 18, 2013 10:36 pm Anyone? Thinking I could also get the Schweigen canopy rangehood WM2190 and build the cabinet around it, that way the hood part will stick out from under the cabinet to cover the cooktop. Any thoughts? Has anyone used a canopy rangehood and built cabinets around it because the undermounts aren't deep enough? Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 3Mar 20, 2013 7:56 am The undermounts I have looked at were pull-out types, so when that was done, they were full depth. Usually, pulling them out was what turned them on. Haven't looked at this brand in particular though. HD Land settled May '14. Building the PD Hoffman39: 5/11=site start, 13/11=slab pour, 26/11=frame complete, 10/12=roof on, 12/12=bricking started. Blog: http://jyndeira.net/blog/ Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 4Mar 20, 2013 6:45 pm Thanks, I visited a reputable applicance store today, and asked if the undermounts provide sufficient suction for the cooktop compared to canopy rangehoods. The answer was that it depends on the air flow rate provided, if the airflow is high enough, it should suck in everything from the cooktop. However, it still doesn't seem right to me, to me, the undermounts have to work harder to suck in a larger volume of air through a smaller area than the canopy rangehoods, which capture the entire area of the cooktop. So I think i'll go canopy, and see if the cupboards can be built around it. Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 6May 16, 2013 9:08 pm koborrow Have now purchased the WM2190-6SP (1600 Isodrive motor). I aim to install everything myself. Hi Koborrow Have you installed and got your schweigan working yet? We are installing a 110cm falcon stove - and intend to put the 1600 Iso drive schweigan above it I would love your feedback on what you think - and are you happy with your decision (they aren't cheap) Cheers Sandy Building the "Symphony Grande" with Masterton Homes If I ever remember to update it - check out my blog http://fernadell.blogspot.com.au/ Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 7May 16, 2013 9:17 pm koborrow However, it still doesn't seem right to me, to me, the undermounts have to work harder to suck in a larger volume of air through a smaller area than the canopy rangehoods, which capture the entire area of the cooktop. So I think i'll go canopy, and see if the cupboards can be built around it. You answered it yourself right here: koborrow Thanks, I visited a reputable applicance store today, and asked if the undermounts provide sufficient suction for the cooktop compared to canopy rangehoods. The answer was that it depends on the air flow rate provided, if the airflow is high enough, it should suck in everything from the cooktop. The air flow rate is a measurement of how much air it actually sucks through. It's the only way to compare range hoods. If it was done by wattage you might have a point, but as the airflow rate is a measurement of how many litres of air it sucks, you can compare across the board. It's the only measurement that makes sense. Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 8May 19, 2013 12:38 pm We recently fitted the Schweigen UM1170-6S with the 650 motor. We have an Aeg induction cooktop 60 cm wide. If boiling water or cooking something at a high heat there isn't really enough airflow to pull all the steam into the the rangehood when using the two front heating elements. Maybe the twin motor might work better? Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 9Jun 06, 2013 10:18 am Clubman7 We recently fitted the Schweigen UM1170-6S with the 650 motor. We have an Aeg induction cooktop 60 cm wide. If boiling water or cooking something at a high heat there isn't really enough airflow to pull all the steam into the the rangehood when using the two front heating elements. Maybe the twin motor might work better? I've heard this before too re: induction cooktops and rangehoods. The twin motor may work better but maybe try turning the rangehood on 5 minutres before cooking. And check that the filters are clean and gradually boil the water do not use high setting straight away. Just some suggestions. Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 10Jun 25, 2013 2:23 pm Hi, For some customers with an induction cooktop, condensation can form on their rangehood filters while using their induction cooktop. There are many variables that can contribute to the condensation problem associated with induction cooktops and rangehoods. Some of these variables include, but are not limited to: 1. The Country or State you live in (example, WA versus VIC, and the variables in daily temperatures) 2. The position of your home and kitchen (morning/afternoon sun) 3. The quality of pots and cookware you are using 4. Height of rangehood 5. Rapid heating 6. Ducting angle Each person’s circumstances are different, but the vast majority of induction cooktop owners have had no problems with condensation. However, it is important to understand that: FACT – Neither the rangehood or the induction cooktop are faulty. That in some circumstances, the combination of the rangehood, the induction cooktop and the many variables within your home, can lead to condensation forming on your rangehood filters. It is good practice to turn the rangehood on 5 minutes before cooking and turning it off 10 minutes after cooking has finished. And check that the filters are clean etc. Please don't hesitate to contact the Schweigen Technical Service Department for more information. Ph: 1300 829 066 Thanks, Schweigen Home Appliances. Re: Schweigen Undermount - are they deep enough? 11Sep 06, 2013 10:05 am First of all, sorry for the very slow reply, I don't seem to get notified whenever posts are made, and I haven't checked these forums for ages. So I have completed the installation of the 1600 Iso drive and rangehood, and everything is going well. The unit works brilliantly, and although I wouldn't call it silent (which implies you can't hear anything), I would call it very quiet. It's quiet enough though, as cooking sounds will overpower the air moving sound very easily, and it's definitely quiet enough to have a conversion (not possible with old rangehood). I think it was money well spent, and makes the house much more pleasant when cooking (open plan). sandyglenn23 koborrow Have now purchased the WM2190-6SP (1600 Isodrive motor). I aim to install everything myself. Hi Koborrow Have you installed and got your schweigan working yet? We are installing a 110cm falcon stove - and intend to put the 1600 Iso drive schweigan above it I would love your feedback on what you think - and are you happy with your decision (they aren't cheap) Cheers Sandy Have had stone benches with undermount sink (kitchen) and drop-in (laundry) and top-mounted basin (bathrooms) for coming up 13 years and not one chip/scratch of any kind.… 2 9676 Most of the time, council will push you out to a private certifier as it ties up their limited resources. Where a builder has gone belly up, the certifier passes the file… 7 5368 As per title, unsure if my land doesn’t have enough fill. The house on the left seems to have higher elevation. 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